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| Blame the ref.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Blame the ref.
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cas must have had a decent goalkicker then eh?..
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| Cas were better with more desire. Shame Atkins can't pass.
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| Boths teams was crap, it was a poor game.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Blame the ref.
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he made some odd decisions but for both sides to be fair. seen much much worse though.
the issue about laying on though is a fair one, on some days the refs seem to allow longer than others and cas realised this better than us and took advantage of it. i have no problem with that it's part of the game
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Blame the ref.
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Absolutely not, although he let your motley lot get away with putting the hand in, grappling around the neck and being offside for most of the game. Our failure to capitalise on the scant number of chances we created killed us.
Moore will be kicking himself for not passing when he clearly should have. Grix, though he put in the effort, continues to make the wrong choice - poor passes when he should back himself or when it's not on for his team mate. What was Drew doing running backwards and sideways all in one?! Our backs let us down in execution, didn't notice Gleeson at all for one thing.
Awful kicking game (Brough can't find touch for a penalty, but kicks it straight out when going for a 40-20, seen far too much of that this season!), poor passing, poor ball retention, poor discipline, no desire, no creativity. Cas controlled the territory in the first half even with their mediocre forwards. Rangi Chase dominated the proceedings. They played a sensible game, and though there were too many knock ons from both sides, Cas just had the edge when it came to pinning us back where we wanted them.
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| very poor performance by wakey today , looked very jaded maybe last two performances have taken it out of the team .........hope fully we will bounce back against salford .
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| Agree TRB we were a clear second best Cas were the better team and more importantly wanted it more IMO.
I had one of those strange feelings early on that it wasn't goin to be our day and to be honest I never, ever felt like we were gonna win. We never seemed to get going, you have to credit Cas for that, but you also have to take into account the way our last two games have gone and the conditions today, I think they were all factors in our performance.
Thought Smith wasn't that bad throughout, but have to question his decision which ultimately led to Cas going in at the break 8-6 up. Cas knocked on, he waved play on and we lost about 10 metres. How the hell was that an advantage to us? Don't know how Brough questioned the decision, but surely he's within his right to question what was a poor and wrong call from the ref.
As I say though Cas did deserve the spoils, they won it up front with the dominant pack and a few clever pieces of play from Chase coupled with a better kicking game than ours.
Well done Cas.
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| I went to see our acadamy play on Thursday and they looked far more skillfull than our first team today. Some of our 'rugby' was like watching kids in the park. If they play like that they will not win another game.
Cas were the best team and rightly won, some of our lot don't deserve paying after that rubbish.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Agree TRB we were a clear second best Cas were the better team and more importantly wanted it more IMO.
I had one of those strange feelings early on that it wasn't goin to be our day and to be honest I never, ever felt like we were gonna win. We never seemed to get going, you have to credit Cas for that, but you also have to take into account the way our last two games have gone and the conditions today, I think they were all factors in our performance.
Thought Smith wasn't that bad throughout, but have to question his decision which ultimately led to Cas going in at the break 8-6 up. Cas knocked on, he waved play on and we lost about 10 metres. How the hell was that an advantage to us? Don't know how Brough questioned the decision, but surely he's within his right to question what was a poor and wrong call from the ref.
As I say though Cas did deserve the spoils, they won it up front with the dominant pack and a few clever pieces of play from Chase coupled with a better kicking game than ours.
Well done Cas.'"
100% agree - spot on!
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"he made some odd decisions but for both sides to be fair. seen much much worse though.
the issue about laying on though is a fair one, on some days the refs seem to allow longer than others and cas realised this better than us and took advantage of it. i have no problem with that it's part of the game'"
that's our problem were scared to lay on which results in us getting up and the opposition getting a much quicker play the ball, leading to us not been set and instantly loosing meters.
Very poor match all in all poor referee but I won't blame him, our inability to pass atkins, Moore, Henderson and ferguson all proved this & all could have ended in tries, pretty sure Murphy will feel like petersen did playing outside atkins very soon!!
Mcgoldrick is an absolute disgrace also, the eye gouging he did to Moore prior to Moore messing up the try opportunity was shocking and not needed in league leave that to union and although the ref penalised him the forearm facial he gave (Wilkes?) was disgusting also
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| looked to me like, once again, we started to believe our own hype, and our form was good enough that we just had to turn up.
please do not however start me on Ryan Atkins tonight, centre????? never. im not knocking his effort today just his skill level. he cannot pass the ball or will not.
Might also be me, but the players we are all hearing rumours about all looked off the pace, but then again that could be because im expecting them not to give a damn now.
Still enjoying the season ,but tonights very very bad.
get the feeling its going to be busy on here too, with a few returning friends!!
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| Quote ="Wildcat_1"that's our problem were scared to lay on which results in us getting up and the opposition getting a much quicker play the ball, leading to us not been set and instantly loosing meters.
Very poor match all in all poor referee but I won't blame him, our inability to pass atkins, Moore, Henderson and ferguson all proved this & all could have ended in tries, pretty sure Murphy will feel like petersen did playing outside atkins very soon!!
Mcgoldrick is an absolute disgrace also, the eye gouging he did to Moore prior to Moore messing up the try opportunity was shocking and not needed in league leave that to union and although the ref penalised him the forearm facial he gave (Wilkes?) was disgusting also'"
glad you noticed the niggling tw*t cos we were shouting our heads off at him near the end. it obviously goes on to an extent between all teams and players but he was particularly niggly, repeatedly, today
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| Sounded a poor game overall but it is only one game and on this occasion we took the spoils.
Let's both move on and win more than we lose for the remainder of the season and who knows, maybe the season decider will be a play off game - now that would really add some spice to the occasion
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| Quote ="chapster"
get the feeling its going to be busy on here too, with a few returning friends!!'"
Let them gloat they won their grand final
No we were very poor Cas weren't good but were better.
Hope I dnt sound too much like a saints fan but it was 2 tries all so was even just silly penalties which we are good at giving away cost us again
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| Two poor sides today nothing in it and either could have won.
Difference was Wakey made tons more mistakes than Cas, no intelligence on the ball and for most parts Cas wanted it more.
We started showing desire after JD's run and with 2 minutes left!
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| Quote ="Tictac"Sounded a poor game overall but it is only one game and on this occasion we took the spoils.
Let's both move on and win more than we lose for the remainder of the season and who knows, maybe the season decider will be a play off game - now that would really add some spice to the occasion
'" yes it was, made even worse by losing
both teams canceled each other out, the weather doesn't help but that's life
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| Its not often I will come on this forum and slag people off.
Today, that is different and it is not just because I am brassed off. Ryan Atkins, you are a tool- you play like a 2nd rower, you have no ball handling ability- all that was needed was a short and quick pass that bloody Mike Ratu did on Friday Night and Grix would of been away......for a short distance at least.
Richard Moore- the Messiah, you greedy pig- 3 on 1 over lapped and you completely knobbed it up....quality decision making.
There are plenty more occasions which a lack of skill and poor decision making which led to try scoring opportunities turning into nothing.
In defence, well do no get me started........utter tripe, urgency in defence- nope, line speed- poor.
I really am annoyed tonight.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Ryan Atkins, you are a tool- you play like a 2nd rower, you have no ball handling ability'"
Now now, come on, most second rowers (Hendo, and old faces like Ferres and Golden are a special exception) can actually throw a pass...
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| its never been our grand final against you lot to be fare you have only just started beating us for the best part of this decade which as spiced it up as we normally used to play the back end or last day of season which with us going through a bad lets say 4 years the result against wakefield has cost us our league posistion twice thats added more rivalry. against leeds we raise our game yeah against our big city neighbours who can average 20.000 at there home games so it spurs us on lets say not againt a team who we hold better attendences than and have won nothing for a long time apart from a higher league posistion yeah we carnt gloat ouselves but sorry bell vue aint no cup final sorry speak to your other neighbours fev it meant be theres
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| Quote ="Captain Library"Now now, come on, most second rowers (Hendo, and old faces like Ferres and Golden are a special exception) can actually throw a pass...'"
Sorry, I stand corrected. Atkins....you are just a tool.
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| Two poor sides on show who both struggled with the conditions. Wakey never showed up and made far too many errors.
Cas seemed a bit more hungrier of the two but looked ordinary in defence and were helped by our poor discipline. They were the better of the two teams and deservedly won a poor contest.
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| Atkins did not look interested today
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