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| Quote ="cosmicat"James batchelor was offered a reduced deal that’s why he walked another local player turned he’s back the club'"
Yes I also heard that rumour and also heard a similar rumour that Yusif Aydin was treated badly by the club and offered a derisory contract. Then we are all now hearing that these two appear to be treated badly in a like manner. However I have now heard that the same agent has acted for all four players. Could this have something to do with all this, really makes you wonder dosnt it.
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| Rumour being the operative word.
I haven't seen an actual fact about this on any of the posts so far, apart from details of the rules themselves.
Despite what Barry down the lane says, you don't know the details of the contracts
No one at the club has said they are going to 'hold a player back '
No club has said they want to buy them.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Rumour being the operative word.
I haven't seen an actual fact about this on any of the posts so far, apart from details of the rules themselves.
Despite what Barry down the lane says, you don't know the details of the contracts
No one at the club has said they are going to 'hold a player back '
No club has said they want to buy them.'"
PT trinity treat the youngsters bloody awful what’s the point of an academy it’s embarrassing
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| Quote ="cosmicat"PT trinity treat the youngsters bloody awful what’s the point of an academy it’s embarrassing'"
You say that but I still don't see any evidence that it is true.
You may be right, but the evidence I can see in the public domain doesn't show it to me.
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| I'm interested to know were the info comes from, surely it's in the clubs best interest to treat all the younger members of the club with respect.
Younger players are the future of the club and its extremely difficult to understand why the club would treat them awful.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"What the hell are you on about, blown out of the water by who, saying what?
If you’re referring to Vastman stupid estimation then you’re as daft as he is
I can pretty much give you the full costings of the Youth system if that what you want (tick)
I’ll add this
I can praise the club for stabilising the finances (tick)
I can praise the club for assembling what looks like a decent squad (tick)
I can praise the club for the ground refurbishment (tick) '"
Go on then, for once praise Carter & Co instead of criticising them.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why would we do that?
It's far more simple. We offered them what we thought they were worth. Last tear we offered Ruan a deal which he rejected and wasn't offered an increase, but crucially then asked to be released and duly was.Young Ollie was offered no deal I believe and was simply released, neither required compensation from the clubs they went to'"
Wrong on both accounts, Leon Ruan was offered a "reserves" deal not a first team deal, so wasn't an improved deal so the clause was not valid and Ollie was exempt from the fee as he was 22 on when the year that 1st December fell, as for his deal that he was "supposedly" offered, well there are deadlines that are supposed to Be kept to and when your agent makes 17 attempts to contact the club to discuss what may/may not be happening, only to finally be acknowledge once an offer was received from another the club, well that says it all.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Go on then, for once praise Carter & Co instead of criticising them.'"
I believe they all smell very nice.
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| Michael Carter has stated publicly that Batch was offered a 10% pay rise.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Go on then, for once praise Carter & Co instead of criticising them.'"
I’ve given Carter praise for stabilising the club on a number of occasions, you and a few others on here really do have your head up your jacksi when it comes to seeing only what you want to see.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"James batchelor was offered a reduced deal that’s why he walked another local player turned he’s back the club'"
Batch wanted to leave before he eventually signed his last deal.
He felt his time was up at the club 2 years ago after watching his brother develop in a different environment.
KR offered him a good deal and a 4 bed house and he was very impressed by his conversations with Willie Peters.
Whoever is feeding you this information is way off the mark.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"But, if I disagree with the club on the principle or morality of holding back 2 kids who want to leave I must have an agenda against the club, that’s pathetic!.
If your referring to Vastman stupid estimation then your as daft as he is'"
As I've told you already paying the bills trumps principles every day of the week, not sure where you get to hold the high ground regarding morality, once again it does not pay the bills, your clueless as to the ins and outs of this contractual business regarding these 2 lads, and like one or two more are using it to cause some embarrassment to the club, which has now embarrassed yourself by now saying that you know more than anybody on here regarding the law on the situation, and you call other people pathetic.
I notice that along with a couple more on here when you've lost your credibility you revert to playground insults, very classy .
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| On the subject of "principles" - we have the high ground here.
We are following, not disregarding the rules. That's a principled approach.
You would lack principles if you attempted to subvert or bend the rules.
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| Quote ="chissitt"As I've told you already paying the bills trumps principles every day of the week, not sure where you get to hold the high ground regarding morality, once again it does not pay the bills, your clueless as to the ins and outs of this contractual business regarding these 2 lads, and like one or two more are using it to cause some embarrassment to the club, which has now embarrassed yourself by now saying that you know more than anybody on here regarding the law on the situation, and you call other people pathetic.
I notice that along with a couple more on here when you've lost your credibility you revert to playground insults, very classy
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some big and yet completely inaccurate assumptions mixed in with lies in that post old lad
Talking of grouping posters together, you and a couple of others need to realise that people have differing opinions on certain subjects that doesn’t mean they are against the club or it’s owners.
Theres a band of nuthugging sycophants on here that think the club and its owners are beyond reproach and try to shut down any conversation that runs contrary to the clubs party line, that’s what’s pathetic
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Glad they have got things sorted, I expect they will be back soon with the respective clubs who wanted them but didn't want to pay a fee.'"
Seems the club are the only party to lose out in the end on the surface.
At least they have 2 wages each coming in and I’m happy they are sorted but it seems likely the club will pay for 2 players and not be able to play them.
There’s no fault in this episode though and I suppose it’s just a principal and rules thing.
If it was me I would t rush to sign for another UK club and I’d happily look for alternate like these two and get double income.
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| Surely they have now signed for another club we won't be paying them anymore?
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Surely they have now signed for another club we won't be paying them anymore?'"
We still have to pay them.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"We still have to pay them.'"
How i read it is they only have to pay them if we wish to retain the registration which would entitle compensation if they signed for a RFL Member club, if they stop paying them that waives the compensation if they then sign back in the UK.
I could be wrong but thats how i understood it
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| Quote ="Wildcat_1"How i read it is they only have to pay them if we wish to retain the registration which would entitle compensation if they signed for a RFL Member club, if they stop paying them that waives the compensation if they then sign back in the UK.
I could be wrong but thats how i understood it'"
I’m guessing a few SL clubs or top champ clubs are interested but aren’t willing to part with the fee to Trinity.
Let’s not forget that these two last have been developed through the academy and into the first team with time and effort. The club I believe wanted to keep them also but the financial package couldn’t be agreed.
If we waver it the all the hard work of raising 2 good young players just gets wasted into nothing.
Seems like a no win situation for the club.
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| Shame on the clubs that turned their heads but left them high and dry, not forgetting the role of their respective parasites.
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| At least £45k saved in wages. Could be come in handy should a player become available mid-season.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Shame on the clubs that turned their heads but left them high and dry, not forgetting the role of their respective parasites.'"
I don't think any club did that, this is all down to their parasite agent, a dreadful example of the breed.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I’m guessing a few SL clubs or top champ clubs are interested but aren’t willing to part with the fee to Trinity.
Let’s not forget that these two last have been developed through the academy and into the first team with time and effort. The club I believe wanted to keep them also but the financial package couldn’t be agreed.
If we waver it the all the hard work of raising 2 good young players just gets wasted into nothing.
Seems like a no win situation for the club.'"
No they weren't, that was just fake news cooked up by their agent, which a surprising number of posters on here seemed to fall for.
Both were offered deals, both were then offered enhanced deals, but they refused. At that point Trinity would have virtually given them away. We'd almost certainly have reduced any fee once negotiations broke down. Yet no club came forward, they were suckered.
Shame. Oddly to me it looks like Crofty has got the better deal, even though Shaw IMO seemed the better prospect. Croft could improve dramatically in Oz, not sure Shaw will in France!
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| Do you KNOW no-one was interested or THINK no-one was interested?
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