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| Lose forward ?
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| Quote ="alegend"Lose forward ?'"
Not necessarily but similar in terms of quality.
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| I dont think hes a strong enough tackler at loose forward if we have signed milner then he will play there if not i would put pitts there he does a lot of work that goes unnoticed but solid in defence
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| Quote ="Alchemist1"I dont think hes a strong enough tackler at loose forward if we have signed milner then he will play there if not i would put pitts there he does a lot of work that goes unnoticed but solid in defence'"
Hope it not unoticed I think Pitt’s tackling makes him the clubs man of steel this season.
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| Gaskell has been excellent this year for us.. but he was absolute gash for the first two years after he signed his contract with us, he turns it on when he needs to (i.e. when his contract is due to be renewed). As for sicknote, i think his % played would actually look quite good, but what is REALLY annoying is the number of times he pulls out literally in the warm up, this has happened at least 5 times at the giants, possibly more, and usually for something minor. A 100% man he most certainly is not. In anycase, if you get the best from him, he is a very skilful and intelligent player, but i would worry that he views it as a final payout and will look after himself instead of your club.
No way you would want him at loose forward, he hasn't the physicality or attitude for it, he is a half back not even a fullback, you will see him bottle a lot of the tough stuff when he plays full back which is why he is not our first choice there (Golding is when fit, which is rare)
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| another mediocre signing
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| Quote ="BOJ042"another mediocre signing'"
Remember similar comment from you when we signed Westerman. Here it is:-
"mediocre signing at best...."
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Remember similar comment from you when we signed Westerman. Here it is:-
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Well done, I wish I could be bothered to hunt these comments out.
I was worried about Westermans attitude but never thought him mediocre. The same applies to Gaskell, I'll judge his attitude when the time is right.
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| Quote ="Hangerman2"Gaskell has been excellent this year for us.. but he was absolute gash for the first two years after he signed his contract with us, he turns it on when he needs to (i.e. when his contract is due to be renewed). As for sicknote, i think his % played would actually look quite good, but what is REALLY annoying is the number of times he pulls out literally in the warm up, this has happened at least 5 times at the giants, possibly more, and usually for something minor. A 100% man he most certainly is not. In anycase, if you get the best from him, he is a very skilful and intelligent player, but i would worry that he views it as a final payout and will look after himself instead of your club.
No way you would want him at loose forward, he hasn't the physicality or attitude for it, he is a half back not even a fullback, you will see him bottle a lot of the tough stuff when he plays full back which is why he is not our first choice there (Golding is when fit, which is rare)'"
You may be right but horses suit certain courses. The truth is there is such a lack of real quality at the lower end of SL that we don't have much choice, we take what's available and his utility value is gold to us.
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| IMO it’s better to spread the quality out amongst the players with these signings than blowing the budget on a high profile player who knowing our luck would spend more time on the physio table than the field . Gaskell certainly doesn’t weaken the squad and can only help in upping performances by putting pressure on players in different positions to be on top of their game
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| Quote ="Kettykat"IMO it’s better to spread the quality out amongst the players with these signings than blowing the budget on a high profile player who knowing our luck would spend more time on the physio table than the field . Gaskell certainly doesn’t weaken the squad and can only help in upping performances by putting pressure on players in different positions to be on top of their game'"
That’s how I see it. It’s about balance and we are not far off and I don’t see Gaskell as the sort of player who would unbalance a team. He’ll add something without ever being a superstar.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"another mediocre post'"
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| Been reading an article that suggests he’s replacing Miller who could be going to KR. All rumours at present with regards to Miller. Would see it as a downgrade myself but up to Lee to prove the doubters wrong like Westerman has.
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| Quote ="supercat"Been reading an article that suggests he’s replacing Miller who could be going to KR. All rumours at present with regards to Miller. Would see it as a downgrade myself but up to Lee to prove the doubters wrong like Westerman has.'"
I assume Millers' contract is up?
Apparently, he's also a dead cert for Cas and few others, so HKR added to the rumour list.
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| Quote ="vastman"I assume Millers' contract is up?
Apparently, he's also a dead cert for Cas and few others, so HKR added to the rumour list.
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No, he`s under contract for next year.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"No, he`s under contract for next year.'"
I was told still under contract which makes it a bit strange but not unrealistic knowing the club.
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| Quote ="supercat"I was told still under contract which makes it a bit strange but not unrealistic knowing the club.'"
Its highly unrealistic
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| Quote ="supercat"I was told still under contract which makes it a bit strange but not unrealistic knowing the club.'"
I know he has talked with Cas, which means he obviously has the go ahead from the club to do so but I know no more than that, not sure if it`s a case of him wanting to move on or the club looking at other options or maybe just planning from 2023? It seems Radford is talking to a lot of players though.
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| Quote ="supercat"I was told still under contract which makes it a bit strange but not unrealistic knowing the club.'"
How do you mean 'knowing the club', since when has the MC run Trinity been a selling club? Answer NEVER.
So yes hugely unrealistic IMHO unless Miller is the one who wants out and by some miracle there is a club out there willing to pay a fee.
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| Or we want to free up some budget for other signings/re-signing by getting his wage off the bill.
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| Quote ="supercat"I was told still under contract which makes it a bit strange[u but not unrealistic knowing the club[/u.'"
What is it you know about the club exactly that gives rise to you thinking that realistically they will be selling Miller, that is once we've decided which club he's actually going to, just asking like.
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| Quote ="happyjack"What is it you know about the club exactly that gives rise to you thinking that realistically they will be selling Miller, that is once we've decided which club he's actually going to, just asking like.'"
Who has said anything about selling? We could be letting him go and terminate his contract early and be replacing with Gaskell. This could be an agreement for both parties. You and Vasty do know this is a forum where speculation is a greater percentage than actual facts.
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| Quote ="supercat"Who has said anything about selling? We could be letting him go and terminate his contract early and be replacing with Gaskell. This could be an agreement for both parties. You and Vasty do know this is a forum where speculation is a greater percentage than actual facts.'"
What you are saying is basically the same thing though. You are suggesting we will sacrifice possibly our best player with a year's contract left to sign another player. I see no evidence this is how MC/CC runs the club but you seem to assume that's how it is run.
I have no issue whatsoever with your speculation, you could be right regarding Miller leaving. What I have pulled you up on is your assertion that this is typical of the club. I just don't see where it is.
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| Quote ="vastman"What you are saying is basically the same thing though. You are suggesting we will sacrifice possibly our best player with a year's contract left to sign another player. I see no evidence this is how MC/CC runs the club but you seem to assume that's how it is run.
I have no issue whatsoever with your speculation, you could be right regarding Miller leaving. What I have pulled you up on is your assertion that this is typical of the club. I just don't see where it is.'"
Even MC has admitted we have made quite a few recruitment mistakes in last couple of years.
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| Quote ="homme vaste":1bc2riziI know he has talked with Cas
Go on then, how do you know this?
Are you related?
Are you his Agent?
Are you a teammate?
Are you employed by the club?
Are you employed by Ca?
Are you Miller?
If you are none of the above I seriously doubt you know, you just think you do.
Be careful what you claim, I had it as a copper bottom piece of info that we had signed Andrew Fifita but I'm yet to see him.
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