Can't be ar send reading all the way back but I've just received this from David Dagger.

Mick FYI
18 July 2017

For Immediate Release


Wakefield Council responds to new heads of terms issued by Yorkcourt.
“Yorkcourt have let down the Council and the Club but most importantly they have let down the fans and the people of Wakefield.” – that’s the response from the Leader of Wakefield Council following the failure of Yorkcourt Properties Ltd to deliver the written assurance they had led the Council to believe was imminent.

Yorkcourt had previously confirmed their commitment to help deliver a community stadium at Newmarket, and agreed to provide a heads of terms to demonstrate exactly how they will achieve this with the co-operation of all parties.

However the heads of terms that were shared with Wakefield Council and the two Trusts involved with the community stadium, have failed to meet the needs required to take this forward.

The Leader of Wakefield Council, Cllr Peter Box CBE said: “The heads of terms are simply not fit for purpose.

“Despite our best efforts, I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the developer has no real intention of making good on the promise to deliver a community stadium.

“I believe we are left with no alternative than to call on Yorkcourt to walk away from Wakefield and the Newmarket scheme and stop letting our residents down.”

Wakefield Council has met with the Club and Trust to explore the available options and it was agreed that they will now work with other parties to move this forward.

ENDS

they would not have to put it back to green belt but they could be very pedantic with planning applications and place numerous obstacles and demands on all future applications that could greatly reduce its potential and value.

However, they made one large booboo when they agreed with Walker in that infamous secret meeting that Newmarket should not be part of the trigger.

If York Court do walk away and we need to look into other property developers, could this be something that 88m Group could help with, even if a long stay at BV is out of the question.

Isnt part of their portfolio land and property development, as they probavly want us out of Belle Vue as soon as possible?

I will believe Mr box if he says that YorkCourt will not be able to have any developments in the Wakefield area. This includes note further planning permission.

They have to do this at the very least. Surely they cannot walk away from this without being punished financially

You don't often read sense on the nutjob forum but one thing posted today, I agree with.

Newmarket is dead ! we need a new solution. Even if the council are true to their word, getting Mackie and his involvement out of the way up there could take years, if ever.

The council got us into all this mess, they should get us out of it.

It feels a long way off at the monent DJ cool but I do agree regarding concerts.

I was at the Paul Heaton concert that was part of Hulls city of culture celebrations. It was a good concert with 2 other well known acts on too.

Think there was about 23,000 at Craven Park. Think of the revenue streams for the city as a whole potentially with refreshment and maybe stopovers.

We have the Warehouse and Unity Works but neither hold that much of a capacity for over well known bands to perform.

So, we're in the bizarre position of having Peter Box as our ally. Weird.

And what next for Rodders? Bluff well and truly called. The wilderness for him, hopefully, and a life ban from our terraces.

Have alternative sites or sources of funding been discussed at any point with the council, even just informally? Did the rumour about them offering us some land near the old power station have any substance?

Walker looks like a right tool now with all that boasting about what he could do!

Makes it even less likely, Yorkcourt won't pay it back and leave the council with a large debt to repay rather than us. with all the cuts they have had in recent times they won't, probably can't, take the risk.

There was clubs suggestion of the council loaning the money. Even the conservative government believe that spending on infrastructure is good for the economy.

I'd be absolutely stunned if they agreed to that.

I also think that further meetings between the council, the club, the trust and any new developers should be made public

subtle difference but the suggestion was the council borrow the money and the club cover the interest and the council pursue York Court to honour their obligation to repay the capital borrowed.

Obviously, the fact everyone seems to accept York Court wont honour anything makes this pretty much a non-starter unfortunately.

So when is Councillor Box meeting with the Club & Trust because the clock is ticking , and time is running out to get a new plan in order to satisfy Super league. Sorry but can't see it happening by the end of the month.

As the unilateral undertaking has not yet been replaced, they could always enforce that.

Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools

Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools

But then we are back to the 60k trigger point and whether Newcold counts or not and until that is reached no obligation to build a stadium.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but with York Courts track record they should not have been allowed to build anything without proof of funding to start the stadium at the same time as the first brick was laid. This is the basis of the Cas s106 as I understand it

Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools'" Not an ounce of social conscience between them

Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools'" Not an ounce of social conscience between them

Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools'" Harry James Shipley, born in 1950, iss also co-director with William Shipley, born in 1987, in Shipley Estates in Tamworth, along with another Harry James Shipley, born in 1979. Harry Snr and William became directors of Yorkcourt on the same day but William resigned in March this year, although they seem to be both still directors of Shipley Estates and others. I have no idea whether William Shipley has any connection to Rodney's new Trust, as it would undoubtedly stink if he went in with someone with a close link, professionally and familial, with Yorkcourt. Harry Snr and William also became directors in May of this year of Thomas's Entertainments (Leicester) Limited, which looks to have interests in gaming. Wasn't there mention of clubs up there? In fact, looking at the directorships held by Harry Shipley, William is involved in many but he only seems to have resigned from the Yorkcourt and Paragon ones, both in March this year, just after Rodders stepped down from the Trust. I am not suggesting any link or anything untoward! Just stating facts.

Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Companies house gives some interesting movement of directors , https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 4/officers No idea who Shipley is , Jones is part of the Crecraft Jones Partnership ( Paragon development ) , Mackie resigned his directorship in Oct 2012 then was reinstated in March 2017, Looks like set of dodgy bleeders, who in conjunction with Rodders have had us and the council for fools'" Harry James Shipley, born in 1950, iss also co-director with William Shipley, born in 1987, in Shipley Estates in Tamworth, along with another Harry James Shipley, born in 1979. Harry Snr and William became directors of Yorkcourt on the same day but William resigned in March this year, although they seem to be both still directors of Shipley Estates and others. I have no idea whether William Shipley has any connection to Rodney's new Trust, as it would undoubtedly stink if he went in with someone with a close link, professionally and familial, with Yorkcourt. Harry Snr and William also became directors in May of this year of Thomas's Entertainments (Leicester) Limited, which looks to have interests in gaming. Wasn't there mention of clubs up there? In fact, looking at the directorships held by Harry Shipley, William is involved in many but he only seems to have resigned from the Yorkcourt and Paragon ones, both in March this year, just after Rodders stepped down from the Trust. I am not suggesting any link or anything untoward! Just stating facts.

Brief Trust statement to be issued this evening.

I know in these days of financial constraints it's difficult for local councils to shift money to where it is most needed, BUT to finance a Community Stadium, would in my opinion not be squandering public money. There has to be some sporting centre of excellence in any large town or city, and this could be incorporated in the stadium.
With a loan in the council's name (and are there any grants available nowadays?) surely the club could generate enough money to pay the interest as MC has offered. Perhaps, the club managed properly (as now) could even chip away at the capital and eventually own the stadium or a share of it.
I don't know how much a stadium costs but I would imagine it would be a small part of the WMDC budget and with top class facilities for WMD or am I being much too optimistic?

Interesting that both Sir Rodney and Peter Box are directors together, along with others, of the Yorkshire Sculpture Park.[urlhttps://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03498700/officers[/url

I know these are the kind of things these high-flyers get involved with. For instance, both Rodney and Peter Box were directors of the National Coal Mining for England Trust plc together for many years, and Denise Jeffrey is a current director (although not at the same time as Rodney). Just an example of how these people come across each other.

I have it from a director of Scarborough FC that the Council funded the 18M sports village there and they are there as the fee paying anchor tenant. The FA gave a grant to help with the ground from the football foundation funds. The village includes a 50m Olympic pool and sports centre. Come on Mr Box...you have some culpability in this mess. Get it sorted for the people of Wakefield. Not just the RL fans. And how about the RFL getting involved like the FA did with Scarborough? Instead of dreams of Canadian SL franchises?