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| Ralph Rimmer confirms Halifax's application wasn't as strong as the clubs who were successful with their license application.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"You are wrong, in that had Crusaders not gone into administration, the taxman wouldn't have asked the cash because there was an existing agreement with the taxman. So, as I understand it, if the Crusaders hadn't gone into administration, then neither would we, and so that problem wouldn't have arisen.
The Halifax chairman should have held his fire, effectively accusing Wood and Lewis of dishonesty. If we stumble, or Cas, or Quins, I can't see them giving Halifax a call now. He may have burned his bridges with the RFL with that statement, and you never know, he may have needed it within the next year.'"
But neither would you have had new management either , or the prospect of spending 500 K on BV , sorry Slugger but you have got out of jail here , and you have to see the Fax fans/owners point
Also I'm sorry but clubs should not have to keep shut on subjects like this , and if the RFL admin are petty enough to let it affect their decisions on subjects as serious as the future of clubs , then they should not be in the job
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| I am sick to the back teeth listening to the Halifax chairman bleating on about being hard done to. He wants to take a long hard look at his own club's financial history before going on about ours. He In the past Halifax have been in financial trouble more times than Greece. Yes there stadium is better than ours but on a size to time ratio took longer to finish than Wembley.
It wasn't just the RFL who had input in today's decision. Yes we have been given a lifeline by the outcome, but if you want to be taken seriously then argue your point with like for like. My favourite quote of his was when he said 'anyone can put anything in an application it doesn't make it true, but we have been honest with ours.'
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| Quote ="Starbug"But neither would you have had new management either , or the prospect of spending 500 K on BV , sorry Slugger but you have got out of jail here , and you have to see the Fax fans/owners point
Also I'm sorry but clubs should not have to keep shut on subjects like this , and if the RFL admin are petty enough to let it affect their decisions on subjects as serious as the future of clubs , then they should not be in the job'"
To some extent we have, I accept that, but the administration was the stick to beat us with, and was something the Fax chairman bleated about.
I don't care whether clubs keep quiet or not, but to accuse other people in the game of deception and duplicity will make him few friends. Fine, let him mouth off, but when the RFL are considering who to call when one of the grade C clubs falters on a promise, he can hardly complain when his phone doesn't ring. It was a time for a cool head and a long-term view, similar to the way Widnes dealt with it last time. You never know, his outburst might make the one at the LSV tinkle.
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| Quote ="Starbug"But neither would you have had new management either , or the prospect of spending 500 K on BV , sorry Slugger but you have got out of jail here , and you have to see the Fax fans/owners point
Also I'm sorry but clubs should not have to keep shut on subjects like this , and if the RFL admin are petty enough to let it affect their decisions on subjects as serious as the future of clubs , then they should not be in the job'"
Agreed, but don't you think he is actually picking on the wrong club, he should have gone after Quins!
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| The administration of the Halifax club is disgraceful.
[url=http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/breaking_news_fax_v_batley_off_rfl_investigate_ostick_1_1948486They played an ineligible player in the CCC[/url
[url=http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/breaking_news_sheffield_threaten_court_action_over_barlow_1_2997855Then having to settle outside of an RFL investigation[/url
Much as I admire their supporters the chairman should just let it rest.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
but when the RFL are considering who to call when one of the grade C clubs falters on a promise'"
You have really been taken in by all this RFL propaganda havnt you.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Ralph Rimmer confirms Halifax's application wasn't as strong as the clubs who were successful with their license application.'"
Well he's hardly likely to say it was stronger was he ?
This is Nige's pet Patsy we re talking about here
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"You have really been taken in by all this RFL propaganda havnt you.'"
The point is what if Quins do a Crusaders? Someone will need to take their place. Nigel whathisface was making the point that clubs have given undertakings, and they have to fulfil them. That's the point I was making. He's let your club down by his outburst today, because it might help to nudge clubs like Featherstone or Leigh above you if someone does have to step into the breach.
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| as im in dream mode, please make it fev!
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well he's hardly likely to say it was stronger was he ?
This is Nige's pet Patsy we re talking about here'"
You may have missed it been from the other side of the hill, but Gration was supposed to interview Wood but he pulled out right at the last minute leaving Rimmer to face the music.
The question has been asked by several Trinity supporters, but there is no reason why Trinity would be included at the expense of Halifax had their application been inferior. Its not like the club were on the protected list. Their bid must have been better, despite how incredulous the Halifax chairman may find it.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"there is no reason why Trinity would be included at the expense of Halifax had their application been inferior. Its not like the club were on the protected list. Their bid must have been better, despite how incredulous the Halifax chairman may find it.'"
That's a good way of putting it. They still had a golden opportunity to get shut, and so they must have been impressed with what they saw.
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| This whole sorry debacle just shows that franchises don't work; they don't prevent or avoid the problems they were introduced to combat and nobody likes the system.
P & R is the only fair way.
Congratulations Trinity, commiserations Fax.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"You may have missed it been from the other side of the hill, but Gration was supposed to interview Wood but he pulled out right at the last minute leaving Rimmer to face the music.
The question has been asked by several Trinity supporters, but there is no reason why Trinity would be included at the expense of Halifax had their application been inferior. Its not like the club were on the protected list. Their bid must have been better, despite how incredulous the Halifax chairman may find it.'"
That's very well put - we're not exactly an expansion side or an RFL favourite, so they would have no reason to keep us in over Fax other than our application being better.
The Fax Chairman needs to wind his neck in and learn to do a Widnes; take your medicine and keep your fingers crossed that ourselves, Cas or Quins fail to deliver.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"That's a good way of putting it. They still had a golden opportunity to get shut, and so they must have been impressed with what they saw.'"
Story goes our application was the strongest of the five C's.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Story goes our application was the strongest of the five C's.'"
If this does actually turn out to be correct, and is published as such, then I hope the Halifax Chairman has the good grace to retract his comments.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Story goes our application was the strongest of the five C's.'"
halifax's bid was doomed as soon as they started cutting corners .
getting shut of Howard was a massive mistake , we all loved Howard
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The point is what if Quins do a Crusaders? Someone will need to take their place. Nigel whathisface was making the point that clubs have given undertakings, and they have to fulfil them. That's the point I was making. He's let your club down by his outburst today, because it might help to nudge clubs like Featherstone or Leigh above you if someone does have to step into the breach.'"
I just cant see it to be honest. They wont let London fail, i suspect its far too important to the Sky deal to let that happen. Im not sure our club is really going to buy in to the idea that clubs have been given areas to work on and if they dont then they could get kicked out, afterall that was the story last time as well.
Im actually glad our Chairman grew a pair today, i honestly believe this was our best chance to get in as i doubt anyone in our league apart from Crusaders will be said to meet the criteria in 3 years time and even if they do theres no chance of their application been better than a SL teams.
I didnt think Wakey deserved to be kicked out as im still a big believer that sport is about what happens on the field and i also think of Wakey as a traditional club like Fax. I think a lot of people just accepted Wakey would make the drop but when Crusaders dropped out and that didnt happen people have aimed their anger at the easiest target when it could and possibly should have been aimed elsewhere.
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| The Shay Capacity 10,061 (5,830 seated)
BV after redevelopment 12,000
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Believe it when I see it. You made the same promises last time and broke them. The Shay is ready now. If you redeveloped all four sides of BV it still wouldnt be half the ground that the Shay is. Perhaps if we want a license next time around we should demolish half of the shay and go bust the season before. Its worked for you!'"
The Shay Capacity 10,061 (5,830 seated)
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| Quote ="bren2k"Hard news for Fax to take, but our application was stronger.
It should be borne in mind - they've emphasised several times that these licences can be withdrawn any time they choose, so if ourselves or Cas don't put our money where our mouths were, we'll be out and they could get the call.'"
hasnt that what the last 3 years has been about, putting your money where your mouths are, have you done it???
we wont ever get back in your league till this franchise crap end's and with Crusaders netting one big fat own goal for the RFL today hopefull they will cut the crap and putting the teams who deserve to go up and not teams who are based only on location and nothing else.
and i must make this clear i have nothing against your club and i wish you every success in the next 3 years.
but you can see what he is saying,
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| Quote ="bren2k"Now you're just being silly; I understand how hacked off you must be feeling, but when you read the above back in a few days time, you'll be embarassed.
Hopefully, once your Chairman has cooled his jets, he'll make plans to ensure that Fax are primed, ready and waiting to take the SL place of ourselves, Cas, Quins or any other club that doesn't do what it said it would do.'"
but we won't though will we, Crusaders will come down get ready again and be prepelled back somewhere they can't survive, we wont get back in for at least 6 years FACT!!
And then at that point we will have maybe a scottish team or Cumbrian team being in the running and there is only one winner,
am not paying £15 to watch 20 freindlies anymore i just can't afford it. i'll stick to football cause this sport is just a joke
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| Quote ="faxtastic"hasnt that what the last 3 years has been about, putting your money where your mouths are, have you done it???
we wont ever get back in your league till this franchise crap end's and with Crusaders netting one big fat own goal for the RFL today hopefull they will cut the crap and putting the teams who deserve to go up and not teams who are based only on location and nothing else.
and i must make this clear i have nothing against your club and i wish you every success in the next 3 years.
but you can see what he is saying,'"
I can see what he's saying, but for mine, he's getting it wrong; your battle was with Widnes and that battle was lost several months ago - you were never going to have a better application than even the lowest scoring SL clubs, and so it transpired.
If he continues his bitter ranting after the dust has settled, he'll be doing himself, the club and its fans a serious disservice in my view - now is the time to take the hit, listen to the feedback and make sure that when Cas fail to deliver their stadium, Fax are ready to step into the breach.
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| Yes but our application is never going to be stronger is it, we dont get as much sky money,
we dont get Leeds, Bradford and other fans bring 2,000 fans to an away game.
our attendances will only go down becuase people cant afford to pay to watch 20 freindlies for the next 3 years, £15 a pop i beleive at the shay or something like that have a season ticket so dont pay much attention.
how can our application ever be strong enough to compete??
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