better than half empty like ours

We'll save you a spot in ours if you want?

behave now

Quote ="Gaslight"The fact I know the truth based on the fact I've been involved in the meetings r.e. signing deals, just shows how little you really know, doesn't it now. '" Quote ="Gaslight" So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. '" www.imdb.com/title/tt0177448/

Quote ="Gaslight"The fact I know the truth based on the fact I've been involved in the meetings r.e. signing deals, just shows how little you really know, doesn't it now. '" Quote ="Gaslight" So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. '" www.imdb.com/title/tt0177448/

Quote ="Gaslight"One, it will be ready for the start of the season yes, but you need a trial match for the safety certificate - ask Leigh Nobody was screaming for joy at the injury, they were screaming for joy at a GREAT HIT when they realised there was an injury, there was silence, then EVERYONE applauded him off, unlike at Wakefield where it's common place to hear booing, you sad, sad little man. But it just shows how thin you're running on arguments against the ground now when you're trying to cause $hit over things that didn't happen or you're over reacting to You really are a sad pathetic individual, it was a great hit by Walker, just like the one he put on Stosic last year Burgess just went into the collision awkward, nobodies fault. So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" Some of the tripe you come out with on here, I can't see anybody in their right mind letting you near any meetings that were crucial to securing funding for something as important to the future of Cas as the new stadium (unless of course you were serving the teas and coffees)

Quote ="Gaslight"One, it will be ready for the start of the season yes, but you need a trial match for the safety certificate - ask Leigh Nobody was screaming for joy at the injury, they were screaming for joy at a GREAT HIT when they realised there was an injury, there was silence, then EVERYONE applauded him off, unlike at Wakefield where it's common place to hear booing, you sad, sad little man. But it just shows how thin you're running on arguments against the ground now when you're trying to cause $hit over things that didn't happen or you're over reacting to You really are a sad pathetic individual, it was a great hit by Walker, just like the one he put on Stosic last year Burgess just went into the collision awkward, nobodies fault. So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" Some of the tripe you come out with on here, I can't see anybody in their right mind letting you near any meetings that were crucial to securing funding for something as important to the future of Cas as the new stadium (unless of course you were serving the teas and coffees)

Quote ="Gaslight"One, it will be ready for the start of the season yes, but you need a trial match for the safety certificate - ask Leigh Nobody was screaming for joy at the injury, they were screaming for joy at a GREAT HIT when they realised there was an injury, there was silence, then EVERYONE applauded him off, unlike at Wakefield where it's common place to hear booing, you sad, sad little man. But it just shows how thin you're running on arguments against the ground now when you're trying to cause $hit over things that didn't happen or you're over reacting to You really are a sad pathetic individual, it was a great hit by Walker, just like the one he put on Stosic last year Burgess just went into the collision awkward, nobodies fault. So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" They are no more than the designs DLA produced for display in December for us. That shows how SLOW your development is/has been. The only reason for this is finance. But everyone knows it. And of course you would shout about it if you have funds. It's about raising confidence. If you publicise the fact you have the required backing it will show the project is a reality- hence attracting further business. What does cloak and daggers mixed with smoke and mirrors get you? Well ask Richard Wright- conspiracies and doubters. As for signing off business. I very much doubt that! If you were you would be a person who would be well know by face to people who ACTUALLY are very close to our project such as TRB, yet he (as well as your own fans such as Fully) openly doubt your credentials. If your the big man in the know throw down your real name, if your so close I should be able to get a google result of your name being mention in some article over that past 5 years, or a website other than a forum.. or you could actually just be just another fan, looking for a way to feel important after a panning by the Rhinos.

Quote ="Gaslight"One, it will be ready for the start of the season yes, but you need a trial match for the safety certificate - ask Leigh Nobody was screaming for joy at the injury, they were screaming for joy at a GREAT HIT when they realised there was an injury, there was silence, then EVERYONE applauded him off, unlike at Wakefield where it's common place to hear booing, you sad, sad little man. But it just shows how thin you're running on arguments against the ground now when you're trying to cause $hit over things that didn't happen or you're over reacting to You really are a sad pathetic individual, it was a great hit by Walker, just like the one he put on Stosic last year Burgess just went into the collision awkward, nobodies fault. So there's Wakey fans who know more about a stadium that I PERSONALLY am involved in signing off deals to make it happen? right oh, you keep believing Cas aren't getting a stadium, it's all you can do now is hope, because it WILL be happening, sorry. Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" They are no more than the designs DLA produced for display in December for us. That shows how SLOW your development is/has been. The only reason for this is finance. But everyone knows it. And of course you would shout about it if you have funds. It's about raising confidence. If you publicise the fact you have the required backing it will show the project is a reality- hence attracting further business. What does cloak and daggers mixed with smoke and mirrors get you? Well ask Richard Wright- conspiracies and doubters. As for signing off business. I very much doubt that! If you were you would be a person who would be well know by face to people who ACTUALLY are very close to our project such as TRB, yet he (as well as your own fans such as Fully) openly doubt your credentials. If your the big man in the know throw down your real name, if your so close I should be able to get a google result of your name being mention in some article over that past 5 years, or a website other than a forum.. or you could actually just be just another fan, looking for a way to feel important after a panning by the Rhinos.

So you have been lying to us all along when you were quoting monetary figures
in the past,

and for someone who says he doesnt believe what Mr Wright says you have not done too badly quoting him on here, btw if you want to know when Richard is lying just watch for his lips moving

and finally all that crap about how you have helped bring in, give yer head a shake lad, you could not bring the milk in, so you will have to enlighten us as to how you have done something the council, RW and wheystones havent managed to do in 5 year

Quote ="Gaslight"Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" Do Cas realise that dark writing on a black background is almost impossible to read? Also those mock ups should have been done ages ago. If you're involved in negotiating deals then you'll have been using these as one of your key marketing tools for quite a while or does RW just tell people to close their eyes and imagine? It does look nice though.

Quote ="Gaslight"Here's something for you all: www.castigers.com/article.php?id=976'" Do Cas realise that dark writing on a black background is almost impossible to read? Also those mock ups should have been done ages ago. If you're involved in negotiating deals then you'll have been using these as one of your key marketing tools for quite a while or does RW just tell people to close their eyes and imagine? It does look nice though.

You are aware that fraudulently carrying out business in the way you suggest would be a criminal offence? That's quite an accusation you're making there...

No worse than what was thrown at Trinity after the collapse of the TP project by rival supporters, including Castleford fans.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/Ca ... 6475295.jp -Money is there but more welcome to enhance the project -Chemical license "apparently" being revoked

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/Ca ... 6475295.jp -Money is there but more welcome to enhance the project -Chemical license "apparently" being revoked

Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat" And of course you would shout about it if you have funds. It's about raising confidence. If you publicise the fact you have the required backing it will show the project is a reality- hence attracting further business. What does cloak and daggers mixed with smoke and mirrors get you? Well ask Richard Wright- conspiracies and doubters. '" Here you go, although I very much doubt it will do much to satisfy your cynicism: Quote "We have the funds in place – we are confident we can deliver a stadium for minimum standards in terms of the licence – but are looking at further revenue streams to enhance it," he said. "We're working with commercial interests, community and, more recently, a working party with fans who obviously want to contribute. "We're looking at the best way they can do that."'" www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/Ca ... 6475295.jp

Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat" And of course you would shout about it if you have funds. It's about raising confidence. If you publicise the fact you have the required backing it will show the project is a reality- hence attracting further business. What does cloak and daggers mixed with smoke and mirrors get you? Well ask Richard Wright- conspiracies and doubters. '" Here you go, although I very much doubt it will do much to satisfy your cynicism: Quote "We have the funds in place – we are confident we can deliver a stadium for minimum standards in terms of the licence – but are looking at further revenue streams to enhance it," he said. "We're working with commercial interests, community and, more recently, a working party with fans who obviously want to contribute. "We're looking at the best way they can do that."'" www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/Ca ... 6475295.jp

Come on tb you know better than that. If you read the Cas website this is exactly what they are stating. The first thing to be built is the base for the pitch, which is bar far the cheapest thing to do. They say it will be done around May next year which is franchise application time.

Dicky Wright will be up at the site with a JCB in the background trying to make us all believe construction is on its way. Infact to save a few bob he may even use the same old film he published about 2 years ago.

Question for Gaslight that is confusing me ... as you are one of the main movers and shakers in the Cas stadium build I'm sure you will know the answer.

I have read in various articles that Tricky D has forked out many, many thousands of Cas' money on these drawings/plans that he is now displaying. It is normal practise for the Developer to cover this - the plans for Newmarket will cost Wakefield Trinity/Community Trust nothing.

Why have Waystone not funded the latest Glasshoughton plans?

These threads can keep going on until the cows come home, "We have funding." "No you don't." "But we do, here, look at these articles." "He's just lying to get a license." "Don't be bitter!" "I'm not, I'm just being realistic." "But we have funding." "No you don't."


And on and on and on and on.. jesus I'm sick of hearing about the ing stadiums now.

Because Waystones funds for the project are going elsewhere, and Cas wanted to put some money in (to date most of the work has been done by Waystone) and as far as I can tell, RW wanted some input on who the architect was and how the plans would look in the end.

Waystone also haven't been involved with the plans for any of the developments so far (from memory), Xscapes design was by the company that owns that building, same for J32.



Are Wakefield putting anything into the Newmarket development though? Glasshoughton is Castleford project in conjunction with Waystone.

As for being one of the main movers & shakers, not really just in legal, hence the contracts.

Yes Wakefield Trinity are putting money in towards the stadium. The architects were appointed right at the start and and have worked closely with Yorkcourt.

Seems to me under the circumstances the very large sum of money paid by Cas for the plans would have been far better utilized going towards the cost of the stadium.

As said in the article posted by myself and Fully, the money is there, so it doesn't hurt the club wanted to contribute in other ways too, like the designs.

Gaslight - a polite question.

Why have you made it your vocation in life to try and convince those who are utterly unconvinced about the Cas scheme and your assertions that you are correct and everyone else is wrong? I'm not saying that you are either right or wrong, I just don't understand the one-man tirade on here - especially as, with you being involved in the process, it would surely be more prudent for you to remain schtum!

By all means, having tried your best to tell us what you believe to be true, come back and tell how you tried to warn us - when it happens. In the meantime, can I respectfully suggest that, in order to prevent some of our readers dying a death of boredom (not just your posts, but those of the people replying) that you try and keep your peace for a while - I can assure you that nothing positive is being created by keeping the same arguements rolling over and over.

As a note, I have done exactly the same with regard to NM and the Cas board - whatever I know or don't know is of no interest to the Cas fans and I certainly couldn't convince any of them that what I say is true.

ATEOTD - What will be, will be!

Well from judging from your posts on here you naively hang on his every word. I suspect you believe what you want to believe. But having said that I have to remember your well connected so you should know! Rember all last year with your consistent claims about the Oct 2009 start date (you where in the know then!)

I know well enough what accusing a named individual of criminally fraudulent business practices amounts to.

Some Cas fans seem to think that NM has no chance of being started let alone finished by 2012 and even if it is that they would still get a licence ahead of us for the following reasons :

1) They get bigger crowds
2) contribution to the competition
3) We are skint (and maybe going bust)

My views are 1) we have in theory greater scope than Cas to increase our crowds with a new ground (well if it is given as a reason for the expansion area clubs and Salford its good enough for us!!!) and at present their average is only a few hundred ahead of ours and we have been garbage for the majority of the last few months.

2) Depends what positions the respective teams end up in at the end of this season and how contribution to the competition is measured. If they end up in the play-offs again, then that might be deemed they have made a greater contribution then us by doing so, however if it is done on average league position, then it brings it alot closer

3) This is obviously a concern, as alot of the things the club have done over the course of the season tend to indicate this being the case. Cas seem to have a significant sponsorship deal in the bag which is due to be announced in Sept. I suspect we need to find an injection of cash from somewhere (although not sure how we can achieve that in the current climate and the clubs present position - maybe if the stadium gets the nod, we will be in a stronger position to attract additional investment)

I know that some people don't want to get involved in a "who offers the best application" discussion/contest, but I think we have to accept that one or both us/Cas is going to be demoted, so we need to consider the merits of the respective clubs arguments on this point.

Anybody else got any views on this.

On the Cas-v-Wakey demotion, if all things were equal, I would think we would have a slightly better shout as Wakefield is a bigger place and so more potential.

My suspicion is that fate might deal a hand here in other quarters. The Crusaders people said that their intentions with the club were to create more money for the Wrexham football club. If the crowds keep dropping off, they won't make any money, and so may jump ship pretty rapidly.

My thoughts are is that there is the infrastructure for a ready made RU club in N Wales. just waiting for the RFU to throw money at them.