Out of form Trinity with coach selecting wrong players are 6th on 18 points with Leeds, Hull and Huddersfield to play so will finish on 18 points

In form Catalans are 7th on 18 points with Warrington , Salford and Wigan to play they will beat Salford ( they may surprise the other two ) but lets say they finish on 20 points )

In form Huddersfield are 8th on 17 points with Wigan, Cas and Trinity to play, they will beat us so thats them on 19 points

Soon to be back in form ( Friday to be exact ) with easy run in Leeds are in 9th on 15 points with Trinity, Widnes and Salford to play, they will win all three so will finish on 21 points

In form Hull KR are in 10th on 13 points with Widnes, Warrington and Hull to play , they will beat Widnes so will finish on 15 points ( Challange Cup may help them against Warrington by the way

Side that stuffed us at their place and were robbed by ref at BV Salford are in 11th on 12 points with Cas, Catalans and Leeds to play so they stay on 12 points

Widnes are 12th on 6 points and will finish 12th

So table will finish

6th Leeds 21 pts
7th Catalans 20 pts
8th Huddersfield 19 pts
9th Trinity 18 pts
10th Hull Kr on 15 pts
11th Salford on 12 pts
12 Widnes on 6 pts

Hope our coaches and players have stopped this silly looking up the table business and have at last realized that we are in a dog fight for survival.

It's Maths with an s. unless you're a yank.

On numeracy for those still in primary school.

Thanks mate

I said ages ago those close defeats earlier on were missed opportunities, and the likes of Catalans, HKR and Hudds had wins in them, although I didn't think Catalans & Hudds would beat us, and win as many as they have. We have had 9 games where the result has been by 6 or less, we have won 3 and lost 6. 50% ratio would have seen us sitting pretty now........but hey ho, I disagree with you, I think we will win one, but even that may not be enough.

If you could get a bet on those final placings I would go exactly with that table of results.


As far as the coaching staff are concerned, If they don't recognise the true gravity of the situation by now, then we really are in deep trouble.

It's a view I guess Belly. Through my lens the same scenario plays out like this:

Out of form Trinity, in last two games, with coach selecting players that the fans don't always understand are 6th on 18 points with out of form Leeds, injury hit Hull and in form Huddersfield to play so will finish on 22 points and remain 6th on points difference with only a loss to Huddersfield when they put out half a team

In form Catalans are 7th on 18 points with Warrington , Salford and Wigan to play. They will beat Salford ( they may surprise Warrington ) so lets say they finish on 22 points )

In form Huddersfield are 8th on 17 points with Wigan, Cas and Trinity to play, they will beat us so that's them on 19 points. They will need to beat Wigan or Cas to keep in the 8.

Soon to be back in form ( Friday to be exact ) with easy run in Leeds are in 9th on 15 points with Trinity, Widnes and Salford to play, they will win all two so will finish on 19 points but will finish 8th with a greater points difference than Huddersfield

funny that belly as I think Leeds are there for the taking, we have two opportunities lets see which one we take Leeds or shudds

We didn't do well with that 2 opportunity thing last year did we. Let's hope we've learned

So who is at fault for picking the wrong players us the supporters or dare i say it the man who can do no wrong CC I'm confused!

I think the point is that he doesn't think he's picking the wrong players.
It's easy for fans to call after the fact.

Finn wasn't actually at fault for any of the tries, maybe one. But did a great thing to get us a try.
I'm not defending him. I'd drop him personally. But it isn't an easy decision if you don't have confidence in the alternatives.

Chester acknowledged he got his selection wrong on Saturday. Let’s see what he does on Friday

It's not the close defeats earlier in the season that will harm us. It's failure to beat the teams around us in the latter part of the season that COULD cost us.
Victory against Huddersfield and Catalan have put us into the dogfight to avoid the bottom 4 and victories against either Leeds or Huddersfield (or even Hull) will make us safe.
This is entirely in our own hands but, we need a performance sooner, rather than later.
Despite criticism on here for saying that Catalan and Huddersfield were in good form, only to be put down and told that neither side had beaten anyone decent, we seem to have sleep walked into a dangerous position.
We need to treat each of our last 3 games as MPG's (or cup finals).
Leeds will throw everything they have at us on Friday, as they tried to do at Cas in the early part of the game and we have to match them blow for blow until they break.
However bad we think our own form is currently, Leeds' is far, far worse and despite their new coaching set up, their confidence will be almost zero.
5 drives and a kick will do and let Leeds make the mistakes coming out with the ball.

You have to remember we are not just playing Leeds on Friday we are also playing the ref, the RFL, Superleague, Sky and anyone else you can think of. The is the messiahs first home game, how can the world allow Sir Kev to loose it !!!

In fact I have heard Eddie Hemmings has already suffered bouts of premature ejaculation at the thought of his return.

The last bit made me lol
They may bring Stevo back to help in the creaming

This is why games much earlier in the season when some on here were saying (must win game )and got their heads bitten off for their audacity are now proven to have a point .
As much as we would like to be able to target games for wins we have fallen short too many times this season and now find ourselfs in a battle royal to keep in the top eight.
We must go into every game with the mindset of it’s a must win game ,eventhe cup games which we so badly cocked up this year .
We have at our disposal the best squad we have had for a very long time give or take a few injuries.
If we as a team cannot get ourselfs up for the coming battles in the weeks ahead ,staff and players need to have a good look in the mirror and ask them self’s are they really fit and proud to wear the famous red,white and blue.

Couldn't agree more Kettycat.

Players and coaches alike should have that mindset, that every game is important, and must be looking to win the game, especially as the league, generally speaking is so tight.

We are now in a dogfight to avoid what looks like it could well be a very tight and difficult middle 8s campaign.

People will start going on again about how far we've come since the MPG in 2015.

Do we really want to be in that position again?

Mr chester can do no wrong your correct looking at the teams i the championship who will be top4 toronto toulouse and most likley leigh or london add to that the inform hull kr and the inconsistant but strong salford i see the 4 spots for sl been between 6 and no easy games.really hope it doesnt go titts up but the man who cant do no wrong really could be the man to relagte us

Have to say I agree with Belly, doom though it is.
5 wins in our last 17 games tells me defeats are more likely. Great win v Sts in those 5, but its the performances v Salford, Hudds and last Saturday which I fear a repeat of.

we wont get a 50/50 call on Friday night (who do they want in the top 8 leeds or wakey) so we have to smash them to win -

I have every confidence we will bear Leeds and none of the middle 8s scenarios will happen.
I still believe Chester is the man to lead us.

You're a brave man PT!
Personally, this season I wouldn't put a penny on Wakefield winning any of their games because they're so inconsistent. Even against 'poor' teams.
The frustrating thing is the talent is their to do much better.
I agree about CC but I will have even more confidence in him if he has learnt from puzzling team selections.

I remember the great Henry Cooper once saying. 'When you fight an Italian in Italy, you have to knock him out to get a draw'


Friday night will be even harder, Mr Hicks will make sure of that !!!

so you have no faith in Hicks, who would you like Thaler

Yeah, that's one way of looking at it! The point is, those games were there to be won as we competed well in them, but couldn't quite get over the line could we. Leeds at home, something like 8 in front with 10 to go and we lost. Cas at home over Easter, Hull away lost by a point. I remember people saying, we'll be ok because we play Catalans, Hudds, Widnes etc. But it's all history now, i'm quietly confident we can do Leeds on Friday, but if we don't, then it is real nervy times.....