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| Well that's a bold move but it shows players will be dropped for dip in form
Playing in reserve s on Friday.
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| WP stated low on confidence so sounds like it’ll work well for by WP and Kelepi.
Fingers crossed he has a good run out, injury free and returns the week after.
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| Or perhaps he's not allowed to go to France ........
And he's clearly not a 100 percent
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| Why make a big issue ! WP said he was struggling and low in confidence and he wanted him to find his mojo again . I’m more worried as to why rather than it’s happened . Good luck Kelepi .. great player and we need you !!
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| Quote ="cocker"Why make a big issue ! WP said he was struggling and low in confidence and he wanted him to find his mojo again . I’m more worried as to why rather than it’s happened . Good luck Kelepi .. great player and we need you !!'"
Agree with you, having seen him against fev and hull seems to be a fraction of the player he was last season. But you dont know the ins and outs - we did say end of last year that arona was past his sell by date then you find out about the impact of his covid etc and look at his stats on sunday and it just goes to show how wrong you can be as a supporter
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Or perhaps he's not allowed to go to France ........
And he's clearly not a 100 percent'"
What reason does Poaching have to lie about why a players not playing?
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"What reason does Poaching have to lie about why a players not playing?'"
did I call him a liar? merely pointed out that we have 6 players unvaccinated one of which i am fairly confident is Kelepi. So can't really see how my mail contradicts poaching
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"did I call him a liar? merely pointed out that we have 6 players unvaccinated one of which i am fairly confident is Kelepi. So can't really see how my mail contradicts poaching'"
The 'or perhaps' kinda suggests you are contradict what Willie has said.
He's clearly not on form and WP made a good decision. I don't see why you have to add anything else.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"did I call him a liar? merely pointed out that we have 6 players unvaccinated one of which i am fairly confident is Kelepi. So can't really see how my mail contradicts poaching'"
The fact WP has stated the reason hes not playing this week and you offer up up different reason as to why he isnt I can't see how that isnt contradicting?
How can you be fairly confident that KT isn't vaccinated? You have no idea who's vaccinated and who's not, unless you know something the rest of us don't?
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"What reason does Poaching have to lie about why a players not playing?'"
Damage limitation would be a good reason... the simple solution would be for the fans to know if Kelepi could have travelled if he wasn’t dropped...
After his performance against Hull he should have been dropped ... but there’s a side issue to this and I’m personally no longer trusting enough not to suspect a ‘dead cat’
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Agree with you, having seen him against fev and hull seems to be a fraction of the player he was last season. But you dont know the ins and outs - we did say end of last year that arona was past his sell by date then you find out about the impact of his covid etc and look at his stats on sunday and it just goes to show how wrong you can be as a supporter'"
Yet you seem to think you know the ins and outs, unbelievable
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Damage limitation would be a good reason... the simple solution would be for the fans to know if Kelepi could have travelled if he wasn’t dropped...
After his performance against Hull he should have been dropped ... but there’s a side issue to this and I’m personally no longer trusting enough not to suspect a ‘dead cat’'"
If you deserve to be dropped after 1 poor game esp when weare low theres summet up and why aint others been dropped
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| Quote ="Luppylad"If you deserve to be dropped after 1 poor game esp when weare low theres summet up and why aint others been dropped'"
He isn't being punished.
WP says he's low on confidence and wants to give him time.
We have plenty of cover in back row.
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| Does anyone really believe he’s been dropped?
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| Can't see the problem either way.
Willie says he's rested. I don't need more than that.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Can't see the problem either way.
Willie says he's rested. I don't need more than that.'"
That’s because you are completely blinded by your passion for the club
Opinions clearly split of why he’s being dropped though, confidence or unvaccinated ?
No one can be sure
Que thread being locked………..
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet you seem to think you know the ins and outs, unbelievable
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Thank god we have you to give us the gospel facts then, as no one is more in the know about the internal working of trin than you
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Does anyone really believe he’s been dropped?'"
Personally yes and no.
There probably is more to it, but do we want a coach washing his dirty linen in public? WP is clearly shielding his players and he knows that what he says carries some validity whilst what’s on here is pure speculation,
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| Quote ="musson"Thank god we have you to give us the gospel facts then, as no one is more in the know about the internal working of trin than you'"
How can I do that? I don’t know the facts and that is the point.
I’ve never claimed inside knowledge of the playing side, I have as regards the stadium. If that upsets you I really don’t care. Oh and please don’t bring Andrew Fifita into this as I think it’s fairly clear he was on his way with only a last minute change of circumstances ending things, something verified by a number of posters on here. All the same, lesson learned I won’t be so quick to share what scraps of info I get in future.
What does drive me to distraction is nobodies on here, people who don’t even use there own names demanding sensitive information be delivered to them via an Internet forum, seriously!
You can’t be that naive, nobody can. I don’t know what you do as a job but I’m sure you don’t share it all on Facebook, or maybe you do nothing would shock me.
We have the most honest BOD we have probably ever had and probably the most honest and open in the game. We have a young coach finding his way who tries his best to be open, but there is open and then there is stupidly open and he seems to know the difference.
Trinity is not a bigger version of Eastmoor, it’s business operating in a competitive environment. RL is not a normal business but it has to be run in a business like way and that means it protects its product. This is for the benefit of its employees and it’s consumers (us).
It baffles me not that people speculate, why not it’s part of the fun. It’s that they do so with a sense of entitlement that makes them believe they are owed an explanations from the club on every decision. They are not.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"If you deserve to be dropped after 1 poor game esp when weare low theres summet up and why aint others been dropped'"
Who else had a bad game on Sunday and deserved to be dropped?
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| The dropped thing could be a new thing for the club and showing the coach will take that type of decision.
Historically you would have to go a long way back to name a player dropped for a dip in form.
Infact I can not think of one
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| Quote ="musson"That’s because you are completely blinded by your passion for the club
Opinions clearly split of why he’s being dropped though, confidence or unvaccinated ?
No one can be sure
Que thread being locked………..'"
Why does it matter to you?
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| He may well have been dropped due to poor form but, he may also be unvaccinated ?
Getting dropped after 1 poor game could get really interesting as the season progresses.
Lets hope that the squad who do go to France, put up a decent fight.
Come on Trin !
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| With hindsight, it was probably a mistake for MC to state publicly that 6 players (at that time) were unvaccinated. This inevitably led to speculation about any player who doesn't travel to France. This leads to a difficult situation where the club cannot be seen to divulge personal medical information, so they can't say who is or isn't vaccinated; adding to the loop of speculation.
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| We can speculate all day but ultimately we need to use what evidence we do have to make an assessment. I appreciate it is early in the season but his performances in preseason and on Sunday have not been up to standard. Most worrying for me it looks to be his energy levels and enthusiasm which is low.
Interesting that he is playing in the reserves, you could probably take a few things from that.
At the end of the day though against Fev in what was lacklustre performance from the entire team it was the younger lads who came on towards the end of the game and and made an impact when the more seasoned pro's couldn't so it is probably only right and fair, that if a player isn't contributing to the levels expected of them that they step up and get a chance.
I think it is a positive sign that the club is moving in the right direction when we can drop someone who would be classed as a key player and replace him with another experienced player.
The Catalans trip is a bit of a hiding to nothing. If we pick up a win it will be an unexpected bonus even with their absentees and regardless it shows the wider squad nobody is guaranteed a shirt.
Hopefully KT can use the next couple of weeks to get back to basics and rediscover his mojo. He is a quality player when he is on and I think we are going to need him near his best as it is in my opinion going to be a tough season.
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