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| Seen that they have announced there squad and while back division dont look too bad they look light in forwards but they only seem to have a 24 man squad so could be a lityke light in players
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Seen that they have announced there squad and while back division dont look too bad they look light in forwards but they only seem to have a 24 man squad so could be a lityke light in players'"
Leigh's problem is that there simply isn't much talent available. Plenty of good players in SL but nearly all are tied down, With transfer fees being a thing of the past it's hard to prise players away. Ditto, the NRL and reserve NRL etc no longer supplies players in the quantity they once did. All levels of Aussie RL are wealthier than ever and the exchange rate remains poor. It's interesting that many of the overseas players in SL hail from NZ or the Polynesian islands, places where the pound buys a lot more. Finally as has been mentioned before, a lot of championship players are not willing to go pro for a club that may only last one season in SL when they can often earn far more playing semi-pro and working.
I don't envy them.
The clubs I'm interested in are my key indicator clubs. HKR, Hudds and Salford, teams we are always pretty level with, in terms of wins and loses in recent years. Then Cas who may or may not be on the slide but are the one we measure ourselves against and then Leeds, a team we always seem to want to beat. If we can beat all those teams more often than not then pick up bits here and there we could finish in the play offs.
If we can't and we can't beat Leigh then we are in bother. We shall see.
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| When you look at other squads Leigh are a step below.
We have to make sure we are in the pack above them. With the team we have we should be battling in the quite large mid table group but it's easy to be at the bottom of that group and down with Leigh if we don't perform.
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| Quote ="PopTart"When you look at other squads Leigh are a step below.
We have to make sure we are in the pack above them. With the team we have we should be battling in the quite large mid table group but it's easy to be at the bottom of that group and down with Leigh if we don't perform.'"
Which fundamentally is what's happened in the last two years. I like you consider injuries to be the main factor in that but we can't blame it totally. IMO we also went off the boil at certain times, especially last year.
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| Quote ="vastman"Which fundamentally is what's happened in the last two years. I like you consider injuries to be the main factor in that but we can't blame it totally. IMO we also went off the boil at certain times, especially last year.'"
Think thats where i am at mo we do have some good players and a team more than capable but we havent seen this for 2 years and we are basically the same squas/team with maybe lino been the exception.hopfully we stay injury free ladt and poaching assist like ni doubt kear and MM did and we can have a good midtable funish but i cant deny i was somwhat a bit relieved when having a propoer look at leigh.
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| When I read down the roster I was hugely underwhelmed. People saying their backs are decent but I thought they looked weak.
Russel is a failed SL player in my eyes and found his level at the league below.
Sau is 34 in a couple of months and while will do a decent job.
Lewis Tierney is the only back imo that’s good enough for superleague regularly and if I’m honest I was hoping we would sign him or burgess to replace BJB.
I mean you can’t write them off at all but you’d have to say they’re certainly lacking depth and quality in a number of key areas.
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| I still expect to see plenty of movement before the start of the season and within the first month of the season, I think Leigh squad will look a lot different come March time but I agree with Vasty, doesn't seem to be much talent available at this moment in time.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I still expect to see plenty of movement before the start of the season and within the first month of the season, I think Leigh squad will look a lot different come March time but I agree with Vasty, doesn't seem to be much talent available at this moment in time.'"
There big hope is to fluke it and sign a bunch of players who are steady but crucially gel and with that get some team spirit. It’s what we usually do and it seems to work
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| Quote ="vastman"There big hope is to fluke it and sign a bunch of players who are steady but crucially gel and with that get some team spirit. It’s what we usually do and it seems to work'"
I`m not sure, I think you might be judging too soon, with SL not starting until late March in reality in a normal timeline of a pre season we would be what late November/ December? I imagine they are talking to a few and they might yet pull together a decent team, they have the financial clout to throw some money at players, we know that.
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| Is there definitely relegation this season?
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| INOUTDon’t forget 80% of that team where already signed up when Leigh got the nod, some of those players probably wouldn’t have been offered terms if we knew what division we were in well before mid December. The only positive is we have loads of cap to spend and 3/4 quota spots. Another good thing is that all players are only on 1 year deals.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I`m not sure, I think you might be judging too soon, with SL not starting until late March in reality in a normal timeline of a pre season we would be what late November/ December? I imagine they are talking to a few and they might yet pull together a decent team, they have the financial clout to throw some money at players, we know that.'"
You're contradicting yourself. You agreed with me that there isn't much talent about, so with all the will in the world who are they going to sign? Look how we struggled to get Battye, a good signing but hardly marquee.
What they need to do is find are second chance players, they are the kind who grind out wins. If you get enough and perhaps 1 or 2 genuine quality players you can go a long way. I'm not dismissing Leigh at all, what I'm pointing out is the way to go, we Trinity fans no that road better than most.
So far Leigh seems to have avoided the trap of signing names like they did last time and shouting their moths off and sticking with some of the team that got them up, they are in with a shout if they stick with that mentality.
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| Quote ="Binosh"INOUTDon’t forget 80% of that team where already signed up when Leigh got the nod, some of those players probably wouldn’t have been offered terms if we knew what division we were in well before mid December. The only positive is we have loads of cap to spend and 3/4 quota spots. Another good thing is that all players are only on 1 year deals.'"
That's where your quality may come from but you need to tread carefully, as I've already noted, the talent available even in the NRL is not what it was. I've no idea whether Lino Mason will do it for us but the truth is he was the only reasonably priced and relatively experienced player left.
I wish you well but not at our expense
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Is there definitely relegation this season?'"
Well there supposed to be but if its going to be another season full of dissruption due to civid wouldnt see how it would be right to relagate
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| I wonder, looking at the squads, which teams Leigh are targeting to be above to avoid relegation?
We need to keep that in mind until we prove to be not that team.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I wonder, looking at the squads, which teams Leigh are targeting to be above to avoid relegation?
We need to keep that in mind until we prove to be not that team.'"
Indeed, but you’d Hope even our lot might have twigged by now that you can’t take anyone lightly.
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| Quote ="vastman"Indeed, but you’d Hope even our lot might have twigged by now that you can’t take anyone lightly.'"
Those 2 defeats by London still hurt and the players ought to be shown either of those games prior to the Leigh fixtures.
They start massively behind the rest of SL in terms of recruitment and they barely played last season so, it would be the hugest of huge shocks should they avoid the relegation trap door (assuming that there is relegation at the end of the season).
However, counting chickens is something that none of us should be doing.
Leigh had some great wins last time they were in the top flight and with what looks to be another unpredictable season ahead, anything is possible.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Those 2 defeats by London still hurt and the players ought to be shown either of those games prior to the Leigh fixtures.
They start massively behind the rest of SL in terms of recruitment and they barely played last season so, it would be the hugest of huge shocks should they avoid the relegation trap door (assuming that there is relegation at the end of the season).
However, counting chickens is something that none of us should be doing.
Leigh had some great wins last time they were in the top flight and with what looks to be another unpredictable season ahead, anything is possible.'"
I remember Leigh taking us to the cleaners in 2015, was either part of that crazy play off system or the CCup, not sure.
We surged ahead then gave up after fifty mins. I can’t even recall if we lost but our teams negligence was epic even by our standards.
I’m wary of every team we play with the possible exception of Wigan. We don’t beat them every time by any stretch but we nearly always play well. Don’t know why they just seem to bring the best out of us.
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| Quote ="vastman"I remember Leigh taking us to the cleaners in 2015, was either part of that crazy play off system or the CCup, not sure.
We surged ahead then gave up after fifty mins. I can’t even recall if we lost but our teams negligence was epic even by our standards.
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It was the cup. We were the 2nd Super League club they beat in the comp. We got about 24-0 up but Chris Riley failed to take the next restart (bounced off his shoulder) and Leigh got a foothold score just before half time. We fell apart in 2nd half and lost 30-36 in the end.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"It was the cup. We were the 2nd Super League club they beat in the comp. We got about 24-0 up but Chris Riley failed to take the next restart (bounced off his shoulder) and Leigh got a foothold score just before half time. We fell apart in 2nd half and lost 30-36 in the end.
Frustrating times.'"
Didn't Oli Wilkes score the winning try for them from about 30 metres out.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Didn't Oli Wilkes score the winning try for them from about 30 metres out.'"
It has to be said that over recent seasons, we have appeared not to be interested enough in some of our "easier" fixtures.
Just when you think we should win an "easier" game, we have performed appallingly - the two London away games are a prime example, especially the second one where we "knew" what they were all about.
They are THE 2 worst performances in the last 4/5 years.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It has to be said that over recent seasons, we have appeared not to be interested enough in some of our "easier" fixtures.
Just when you think we should win an "easier" game, we have performed appallingly - the two London away games are a prime example, especially the second one where we "knew" what they were all about.
They are THE 2 worst performances in the last 4/5 years.'"
I have never had the courage to travel to London. It’s been a graveyard for us on a number of occasions to risk travelling so far. Never been able to afford Catalan.
So I’ll take your word for it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Didn't Oli Wilkes score the winning try for them from about 30 metres out.'"
Don't really remember the actual scores but sounds familiar.
Do remember going to Leigh for the playoff game at the season end. Lee Smith try at the start and drop goal at the end. 16-17 victory.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Don't really remember the actual scores but sounds familiar.
Do remember going to Leigh for the playoff game at the season end. Lee Smith try at the start and drop goal at the end. 16-17 victory.'"
I was there too. That was a bit tense. I'm thinking Tupou had only just arrived but made some big runs to get us out of trouble.... Though I could be mixing two games up there.
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| Didn't Liam kaye score three tries in that match?
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