Powerslam have also said he's been told to stay off tv until after the elections in November to stop him doing something that may harm his wifes chances of getting elected.

Lol, yeah presumably all the other politicians and top dogs would not be impressed with the Kiss My Ass Club.

Lister I am absolutely horrified at what I've just seen - that promo was scary, nonsensical, shocking and above all else fookin mental!



Two crazy old sods in the ring right there!

Seriously I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Flair, he must be so skint to be doing this!

Well it has been a 20 year feud both in wrestling and real life so that was what was being put across. You wouldn't see that in WWE now as they are scared of blood, bad language etc. etc. Flair has had 3 previous wives before the 1 he has now, 4 children and a grandchild I'm sure he does need more money again.



A great decision to go live with the show before Bound For Glory and hopefully some of those turn into PPV buys.

Can see your points mate. However:

Although it's a 20 year fued it's already been done in WWE four years ago and it was a letdown then (e.g. because of them using too many terms/references from their books and the internet, most of which the live audience and probably a lot at home won't have understood).

Yes WWE wouldn't have allowed the blood and language, but to be fair neither of these enhanced the promos anyway. The blood for example did nothing but make both of them look like f'ing psychos (but not in a good "I gotta see this match" way). It was poorly done, neither of them made a lot of sense e.g. Foley going from hating Flair, to kissing his , to back to hating him. Flair's promos mean nothing compared to 15 or 20 years ago - he didn't shout and rave back then because he didn't need to. He was cocky, cool, and could wind the crowd up so much with his digs at the babyface (e.g. watch clips of his superb Randy Savage fued in WWF). Now he's just a deranged shell of his old self (and I hate to say that because I used to think the guy was class).

Are you saying that you sympathise with Flair's predicamant? He wasted so much money through four decades it's untrue. I've only heard the odd story but it sounds like he (same as Hogan) lived like a king for many, many years. I have no sympathy at all for him now. His 3rd marriage breaks up, costing him a sh*tload of money, so what does he do - quickly get married again, ffs!

To go from one of the richest wrestlers in the world to where he is now is his fault and his fault only mate.

If you really want to see what Flair thinks of TNA, search for an Off The Record interview he did about 6 or 7 years ago (it's on that popular video sharing website). He's a hypocritical old get, so is Foley - both claiming that they couldn't stand each other, and Foley stating in 2004 that he would never work an angle with Flair, this is now his 2nd one. Neither of them have a place in TNA anymore IMO, and like I've said, that's coming from someone who was a fan of them both for many years, but the business moves on (well, in theory it's meant to

).

Anyway, that's my rant done...







On a more positive note, All-Star Wrestling was a great show at City Hall last night, great tag match involving El Ligero (a fantastic British worker who does some superb high-flying moves in a similar style to Rey Mysterio), strong women's match (far better then any I've seen in WWE for several years), and a fun Royal Rumble at the end, good stuff.



Gutted though cos (apparantly) if the Hull date had been a week later Gangrel would have been there.

I don't sympathise with him at all. I think too many celebs live for the moment, waste their money and don't think of what could happen in the future.

The promo was impromptu & was done ok for me. The match was brutal in every sense of the word.

I was a big mark for both Flair & Foley when they could both go a bit, but this was rotten. What really gets me about this is that Flairs problem with Foley was always that Flair saw him as a stunt man rather than a wrestler. Relying on dangerous looking high spots & lots of blood. Well 'scuse me Rick, what was the last match standing then ??? And, come to think about it, every match since he retired at Wrestlemania.

I still mark out a bit for Foley, having seen what could be considered the peak of his career during the Attitude era, but in all the time I've watched wrestling (since about 1996) Flair has always been complete rubbish. A spotlight hogging embarrassment. I appreciate he may have been one of the all time greats, but I've never seen it.

Agree with everything there. Foley deserves tremendous credit for playing a big part in keeping the WWF's head above water in 1996 when they were really struggling (e.g. his series with The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels were both good from what I've seen read), and then with Mankind and the Mr Socko gimmick he was a huge factor in the turnaround and Attitude Era. He, like many wrestlers, has gone back on his 'retirement' word several times, but he's still a great talker and overall I love his work as a performer (Randy Orton for one should always be grateful for what Foley did for his career).

I started watching wrestling in April 1991 (Wrestlemania 7 been the first PPV I saw). Flair debuted later that year and believe me mate, he was outstanding. The guy had charisma, the looks, and most importantly could tell a story as well as anyone else. His performance at the 1992 Royal Rumble is still one of my fondest wrestling memories (he lasted approx 60 minutes in it, to eliminate Sid Justice and become WWF champion). Until probably the mid 90's or so he was still having great matches in WWF and then WCW when he went back there. But, since probably 1998 you could count on one hand how many great matches he's had (Bret Hart, Vince McMahon believe it or not, Triple H, HBK at WM24). No shame in this at his age, but therefore he should not still be hogging prime time TV as a wrestler IMO. The guy's a legend and he always will be, but the more he does now the harder it is to remember the real Ric Flair, the guy who wrestled all over the world doing one-hour matches on a nightly basis, and inspired guys like HBK and HHH to become wrestlers. In terms of the wrestlers during my era (91-present) he's at best third, behind Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels, but I loved the guy back in the day.

Hey so what happened with the match anyway?

Agreed, same with Hogan, was watching a Honky Tonk Man shoot interview after the show last night, he gives you an impression of the money Hogan was making in the 80's (nevermind 90's in WCW). HTM said guys like Hillbilly Jim would get merchandise royalty cheques for $80,000 - imagine what Hogan was getting therefore?!

(x the figure by four or five perhaps). Him and Flair must have made millions, and millions in the 80's and 90's, figures most guys can only dream of.

But a lot of wrestlers in the 80's were apparently donating a lot of their money to their good friend charlie

Happened in the 90's too - Road Dogg is one of the wrestlers who admits to blowing a huge part of his Attitude Era earnings on drugs. Shame cos he comes across as a really cool guy, the type who always takes time to sign autographs etc.



Read a story somewhere about Flair settling a bar bill for thousands at the Summerslam 92 (the one held at Wembley Stadium) after-party, will have to see if it's on the net.

Lots of high spots with bags of tacks & a barbed wire board. Basically Flair did that soft Flair fall of his through the pile of tacks & couldn't make 10.

Also look on reaction for the camera man for no reason at all keep bobbing down to blimp at Micky James' tits.

Christ, don't know if I want to see that match or not?!







Micky James, God WWE are dumba$$es for treating her the way they did and letting her go, she's awesome.

TNA Wrestling Bound For Glory - From Ocean Daytona Beach Florida

THREE-WAY MATCH TO CROWN A NEW TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION Kurt Angle vs. Mr. Anderson vs. Jeff Hardy
Monster's Ball: Rob Van Dam vs. Abyss
Lethal Lockdown: Ric Flair's Fourtune vs. EV2.0
Handicap Match: Sting, Kevin Nash & The Pope vs. Jeff Jarrett & Samoa Joe
Tag Team Title: Motor City Machineguns vs. Generation Me
X Division Title: Douglas Williams vs. Jay Lethal
Knockouts Title: Angelina Love vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne vs. Tara (Mickie James is special guest referee)
Tag Team Match: Eric Young & Orlando Jordan vs. Ink Inc.

Team 3D will make a major announcement at the Pay-Per-View
Plus, who are "THEY" that Abyss has promised will be at the Pay-Per-View event?

Sunday will be Kevin Nash's last match in TNA, he's retiring from Wrestling to spend more time with his family according to his Twitter.

Must say that is one of the coolest PPV ads I have seen for a long time.



Feel Mr Anderson deserves a great deal of credit for his work so far in TNA (more from what I've read then seen due to not having Sky

). Watched his RF shoot interview not long ago, he comes across as a decent guy who got over strongly in WWE, but then kinda screwed up. However, rather then moping or becoming a shell of his old self, he's clearly put in a lot of work on his skills to become apparantly a better all-round performer in TNA then he was in WWE (and has shaked the 'WWE Reject' tag which I imagine must be hard to do). Pope deserves credit for doing all the same too, if TNA could do this more with their signings they would grow much faster as a company.

Hey Lister, so what's the score with Jeff Hardy's ongoing case? I.e. I read a while ago that there was unfortunately a big chance of him doing time, but it seems to be dragging out a long while? Be a great shame if he does because he has a rapport from fans that few wrestlers have, and at his peak in WWE was probably the most-over babyface seen Austin or Rock.

Very mixed about this really - clearly Nash is years past his peak and appears to have difficulty wrestling now because of his mobility. On the other hand he's been a great character in wrestling, and was a huge part of the late 90's boom period. Yes he's been lazy in the ring at times (though of course he still denies that), and he had a part in WCW's downfall when he was given the pen, but his role in the nWo was something so strong that most wrestlers will never achieve (i.e. in changing the business), and as Diesel in WWF I thought he was a good big-man character (despite the knocks he gets).

Thanks for the memories Big Daddy Cool / Big Sexy, be nice to see a Hall of Fame induction for him and Hall at some point (been inducted by HHH and HBK would be cool as hell).

His court date keeps getting pushed back (I think about 5 times now, it might be more), but he's next due in court on October 25.

Ah right, cheers.



Had got the impression that Chris Jericho had left WWE, but from talking to my mate on Friday it sounds like he's just having a break? Hope so because he's a class act, be a big blow for them to lose him permanantly.

Will also be interesting to see what Matt Hardy does nextm not heard anything for a couple of weeks.

not happy with the whole matt hardy issue, after smackdown got bummed in the trade earlier this year, pretty much was only matt that i was looking forward to seeing really next month in manchester.

I was looking forward to doing myself a V1 sign.

Not to be now, and not only that, no CM Punk now. Though its cool having edge back.

Oh right, sorry to hear that for ya bud.

Punk's gone to Raw then?

Actually I'm bursting for BFG which is more than I've been doing for a WWE event for a while.

MSMG & Gen Me is the match of the year.

Take note Vinnie Mac, that's how to start a ppv.