we'll soon see, i know he didnt win a vintage champion in 2010, but if on form shouldnt be far away.

on official ratings, both binocular and hurricane were raised to official ratings of 172 following the race. hurricane now rated 173 and binocular 170. so will need to bounce back to his best and some more if the fly comes on from his seasonal debut.

had a nice win on him last year so dont think i'll be deserting him this year.

Mullins big hopes been weak in the market today, Fly, Quevega and Scotsirish all been on the drift a little and Quevega was apparently matched at 2.5 on Betfair - don't know how true back into 1.6'ish now.

Perhaps something to do with Mullins not giving them the post-race gallop at Leapordstown? Hopefull it's nothing as i've a fair bit riding on The Fly/Quevega! Got a free bet with Hills so going to have a look over the week for some bigger priced ones. Quite like Nearest the Pin in the Hanidcap chase on the Tuesday, been held in high regard with entries in the Arkle and if he gets the good ground he wants he seems to be the unexposed type who could go close in this.

im hoping its insignificant too, ive got hf and quevega in a few of my multiples as well.

Every man and his dog has got the Fly/Quevega double by the sounds of it! Bookies will have a field day if one gets turned over. A bit wary that they haven't given Quevega a run, but she's comfortably the best in the field and with Unaccompanied out if she runs she probably won't even have to be at her best to win it.

They never run the Queen Cheltenham now, same 2 races again.

Top up on the Fly and also the Quevega double at 8.30am

Snap.
Anyone any idea what the max bet they're allowing on HF is?

Ton each

Know a few are doing it online then heading to the shop for another ton

Had 15 quid on, can't afford to go too extravagant with Chelt bets this year, because if they go t*ts up I won't have enough to have a good day at Aintree next month.

Got singles on HF, Quevega and Big Buck's as well as a variety of aforementioned multiples.

Ah right. Got 50 on and 50 on the Fly/Quevega double. Resisting the temptation to top up any more, think I'm gonna sit tight til declarations are made now, perhaps a small lay on Sprinter Sacre to cover my back.

im gonna lay either sprinter sacre or sizing europe i think, if confident enough lol.

zarkandar n binocular wont go down without a fight, wind op really seems to have improved binocular.

fair play to hills for laying this offer. i thought it'd be an hour long nasty little marketing scam, only catering for cheapskates like myself, but they are putting themselves there to be taken on.

William Hill @racingkate
Hurricane Fly 5-4 not going to be
there much longer. Laid for over
£250k this morning. Over 3500
customers accomodated. Average £50
stake.

Paddy Power doing money back if Sprinter Sacre wins the Arkle. Considering having a play on Al Ferof with this in mind, although something tells me Menorah has a big run in him this season, even if he's been sketchy at best over fences so far. Tough, tough race to call.

al ferof is my pick at the minute. but sprinter sacre could blow them all out of the water - cant be sure of that though.

call me sceptical, but when i see betting spokespeople/marketing puppets claiming to have laid 250k in one morning, it reminds me of fat wilshire running around with his made-up betting slips for "fawwwwty five faaaaaaaznd paaands" during royal ascot or epsom.

plus, every time there is a well backed fave in a race that attracts bets from racing and non-racing followers - eg kauto when odds on for the gold cup etc - the bookies are always looking at a 'two million pound payout'.

Topped up on the fly this morning with the Hills offer.



I'm feeling the same about Menorah, if he can put in a big round of jumping - which is a big ask! - then he has to be in the shake up, he's only ran in small fields leading upto it so hopefully the pace of a bigger field will help him.

Arkle is looking like the race of the week for me, hopefully Cue Card sets a good clip early on and doesn't give Sprinter Sacre the opportunity to cruise it on the bridle. Ryanair looks v.competitive and of good quality too, 5 or 6 with big claims there.

menorah hasnt put in a good race since the 2010 international at cheltenham - fail to see why the arkle will change that.

the 5/4 has went, fly is now 4/5. white flag waved.

Valid point really, I probably just hold a soft spot for the horse cos I backed it in the Supreme in 2010. Realistically it's best watched until it shows anything like fluency over jumps. Hobbs is having a tough time with his stable stars this year.

baffling to say the least his choice of races for wishful thinking and captain chris, if the latter was mine he'd be going for the champion chase - the arkle is the best trial going.

few bankers i reckon in an acca

HURRICANE FLY
BIG BUCKS
VENDOR
GRANDS CRUS

Peddlers cross goes for the jewson. right decision or has that arrogant pig mccain bottled it, after saying all week sprinter sacre has beat nothing but handicappers and isnt scared of running against him.

There has been some awful decisions made by trainers with this being the latest

Simonsig to the neptune and the probable defection of Sir Des Champs to the RSA

Well am happy 5/1 for the Jewson

Interesting comments from David Pipe in the last few days.

It seems Grands Crus's participation in the Gold Cup hinges on whether Kauto Star makes it or not.

A shame really, as I think he can beat Kauto and Long Run.

they really have dodged the bullet going for the jewson - looks soft as e that race.

Anyone know what's happened to Spirit Son? Looked a prospect staying on gamely in last years Supreme but have seen nowt of him this season. Presuming he's had a setback of some sort?