I have seen threads on this in the past but couldn't find it so if you don't mind I've atrted this new one.

I recieved a parking ticket from our good friends CMS back in Febuary whilst attending the World Club Challenge, and when reading on here people were saying ignore it and they'll go away as its not enforceable. However today, I have recieved a 'notice of intended litigation'. Shall I still go ahead and ignore this?

Also I have no idea on whether this has any bearing on the matter but in any correspondence on this matter they have spelt my name wrong, so in theory my name isn't the one the letter is being addressed to.

Anyone have any advice.

Cheers

Hi mate, I think it's a myth that if your names spelt wrong you get off. If you're car reg was wrong you'd be in the clear, but courts have powers of ammendment on this I think.

I'd post it in the sin bin, there's always knowledgeable people on there on these kinds of things.

I had one of these and was about to pay until I googled it. There are loads of threads about these company's who send you an invoice for parking, they have no authority to fine you. They work on a model where a certain amount of people will simply pay, those who don't receive three letters, each getting more threatening. After that they give up, they haven't taken anyone to court because the process is too long winded and expensive and losing a case would blow their whole business case out of the water. Ignore the letters, and they will go away. Check out the money saving expert website forums for loads of threads on these con men.

That's good advice, Martin Lewis is a genius!

Wouldn't bother posting it on the sin bin.

I posted one about a month ago and most of the replies were telling me I'm a menace to the road etc..... The sin bin seems full of self rightous morons.

Rant over

Anyway as a previous poster has said best thing to do is ignore the ticket. Not sure if you've replied to the company but with private parking tickets they have to be able to prove your the driver as that is who their contract is with..... Legally you don't have to provide them with details.

Unlike a parking ticket supplied by the council where the owner either has to take responsibility or provide details of the driver by law.

I'm not saying these guys are right; but why does everyone seem to think they have a right to park wherever they want and not pay?

How much is the fine? Because if they lose taking you to court then they're looking at £300 minimum so I'd doubt they would bother tbh. I don't know though so don't take my word for it but they won't take you to court for £80 if its gonna cost them at least £300 in the case of a loss.
Courts are cracking down on dodgy parking companies too so I think the courts tend to favour the driver atm too. It all depends on where and why you got the fine? Whether the signs were clearly set up etc just look the company up and see whether they have any actual legal power over you because they probably don't. However there is always the point that if you've overstayed your time on a carpark theres a technicality with regards to trespassing but I think theyve gone beyond that now and I doubt they can pull it back to that now (plus the court would just laugh at them.)

The big thing though which I do know about is have you told them you were in the car? Have they got proof you were in the car? You are not responsible for your car if driven by someone else and they know that if they cant prove you had the car then they cant fine you. I did actually get out of one of these once based on that as for my first year of driving I was put on my dads car then I got my own after a year and I was caught at a netto car park (claimed Id been there and returned within the 2 hours which was a lie anyway) and sent a letter to my dad who obviously wasnt driving so he just sent a letter saying "i wasnt driving the car that day" they threatened that he must tell who was driving so we went and asked our neighbour in the police and he said we dont have to tell them.

I got my ticket when taking the kids to McDonald's got dinner. I had strayed onto the pizza hut area of the car park completely unaware that there was a difference. I guess the dubious nature of their operation is why they would never dare to take anyone to court.

Why should a business model exist that preys quite often on simple mistakes. My 80yr old father in-law got on a couple of years ago, he went to the shop the car park was for and made a purchase then nipped to the bank over the road. Ping! You owe cash. Tell me how that's fair, clearly a paying customer.

At my old work my mate took his mam to Tescos with a disabled badge, and didn't park in a disabled bay so got a ticket.
The BEN were informed and ticket was recinded.

I'm not defending that type of practice (or defending anything to be honest) and of the two examples given in this thread they sound to me like dubious companies, being con men.

I suppose it was more a general question. For example citywolfs thread on the sin bin was him parking in a stay for 20 minute zone (knowingly) and stayed for 30 minutes and complained he shouldn't pay; those kind of situations was more what I was talking about.

Think you should re-read my post.

At no point did I complain about paying it. Simply asked if I needed to as I moved the car before the ticket was issued.

Incase your wondering I didn't.

I love the car-parks in the retail and entertainment parks at Robin Park... YOU MUST PAY TO PARK? Why? BECAUSE THE CAR PARKS GET BUSY? How long's that set up been at Robin Park now? 10 years? I've NEVER seen any of the car parks full!

Wigan is a hell hole for parking now... Wife works in Grand Arcade and doesnt drive, so muggins here plays taxi, if she's late out because she's with a customer and I stopped and waited, i'd have to pay for an hour of parking to wait for 5 minutes. So, the only other option, I turn up late, she gets soaked in the rain, it causes an argument, we fall out... yarda yarda yarda.

Wigan Parking - breaking up families since 1996.

I didn't say you complained about paying. I said you didn't pay even though you, knowingly, parked illegally.

You're just another of the I'm all right, I'll do what I like brigade.

Holy contradiction Batman!!!!!

Read your 2 posts and spot your error.

As for me being in the do what I like brigade, as I said on the post on the sin bin I have no problem paying a fine if I had one.

However, please answer this question..... You return to your car to see a traffic warden issuing a ticket. You can either sit there for 5 mins while he issues the ticket and takes photos or simply drive off and the ticket is legally void.

Please bear in mind this is a hypothetical question as I'm sure judging by your morals you'd never over stay by 5 mins, drive at 31 in a 30 zone, watch a copied DVD or do anything slightly illegal.

the law is the law! only council officials and the police have the right to give out parking tickets, the rest as correctly stated are just invoices to the driver and unenforcable, you do not have to supply the name of the driver by law!
in real terms most of these so called parking tickets are a scam to make people pay excessive "fines" for parking on private land. the irony is there is ussually no way of actually paying. ie no meter or machine to retrieve a ticket to put on your car in the first place! so to answer your question. most people would buy a ticket to park if one were available!

to the original poster. don't pay it, don't communicate in any way with the sender of these bogus threat letters.

if you are worried as stated martinsmoneysavingexpert.com has a full run down on the legalities surrounding these con artists!

Assuming you were in the CMS carpark near Jamals & Cinema, it states on there pointing one way for Cinema Jamal etc, and the other for "Event & Match day Parking" which you have to pay for if there is a match or event on... However, you have to be aware that there is a match or event on as they dont tell you, and they'd have to prove that you were in there for the purpose of Event or Match day, rather than going into the Cinema, or having a meal, or going to the bingo...

If you had no problem paying it; you'd have paid it. It's that simple. You knowingly overstayed and then asked if you could get away with it. Your only counter to that was that the ticket hadn't yet been issued, maybe then your suggesting all wardens should be more eagle eyed and ensure they ticket you the second you go over your allotted time?

Either way you didn't pay it and then asked if you could get away with it on an internet forum, to which you were largely told how low of moral value you are (does this not tell you something, rather than claiming that the posters on the sin bin are all on a high horse).

It's simple really. If you park somewhere you park within those restrictions and you should be fine (if you do and you get ticketed anyway by a private business (like the OP) then obviously ignore it, I have little problem with that where shady business practice is concerned).

To continue along your logic; everyone should park where they like, say on double yellows on a busy main road, as it's closer to say, the local KFC, and it's perfectly ok so long as the warden doesn't have time to issue a ticket.

You really do seem to have a problem understanding others points don't you. I can't decide whether it's because you have nothing better to do than try to argue on an Internet forum or your just simple.

I had no ticket to pay, so therefore there was nothing to get out of.

Nice way of avoiding the question I asked by the way!!

Please feel free to point out where my logic says it's ok to park where people like.

So you didn't park outside of the allowed parameters, I must have missed that bit.

You really have a problem with admitting you were/are wrong don't you.

You seem to be missing quite a bit. As well as Reading things that aren't there.

As I stated I over parked, no problem admitting that. Also no problem admitting it was wrong. If you had bothered Reading my posts properly you would have seen that.

My question on the sin bin was whether a ticket was on the way through the post. (it wasn't)

I didn't complain (as you wrongly claimed). If a ticket had come I'd have paid it. Such is life. Sometimes things don't go to plan and take a little longer.

However, feel free to read this, see something that isn't there and make some wild claim or wrong assumptions..... It seems to be a habit of yours.

the only reason you had no ticket to pay was because you zoomed off before he could put it on your car, this is what i have gathered from your posts.

Which means that you are not only knowingly breaking the law on how long you can park in a certain area etc, but wanting to brag about it online, before being shot down by those on said forum for your lack of moral code etc.

Tip here being, don't bring it up if you do it again, just keep it to your smug self and roll on rather than trying to play the big boy on an internet forum.

Please show me where i was bragging.

Simply asked a question as to whether a ticket would come through the post.

by coming on an online forum and saying how you got away with it, bragging.

Think your really failing to understand the difference between bragging and asking a question.

Perhaps your ignorance is down to not seeing the original post.

Either way this is getting off topic and I'm probably not going to waste any more of my time responding to lies....... Have far too much to do with traffic laws to break and parking enforcement officers to wind up.