To be 3 from 10 is not acceptable. 6 from 10 would just about be acceptable but we are nowhere near that. The forwards are simply not up to it, not big enough, strong enough aggressive enough. Yet every game we try and take teams on up the middle, not playing to our strengths. The most frustrating thing has to be the basic errors, is keeping hold of a ball really as hard as the players make it look? No of course it isn't. People say its not the coach's fault that a player drops the ball but surely the amount of times it happens for us it means they are being poorly coached because it should be worked on and perfect in training before the season begins. It would be acceptable if it was once a while on a rainy night that they dropped so much ball but it seems to be near enough every week. NOT GOOD ENOUGH

It isn't the coaches fault players drop the ball - but its the coaches fault the players aren't cohesive, aren't playing to any sort of format and are clearly lacking bottle, skill and passion.

Times up for Mr Noble I'm afraid.

Our major issue and it's been our major issue for a very long time and especially these last couple of seasons under Noble has been 'attitude'.

Plain and simple.

He only gets them up for the play offs but because of our poor regular season form we leave ourselves too much to do.

Enough is enough Noble has to go. Lets get someone in who can kick that sorry bunch into shape.

does anyone else think we should bring in an american football running back coach to show em how to hold the ball (assuming they catch it).

the hits those guys take are awesome, but they hang onto the football....thats part of the skill.
dropping the ball in either NFL or league is unnaceptable imo.

I agree and have thought this for a good while.
I like Noble and appreciate what he has done for Wigan but I just don't think he can take the club any further.

How many times tonight did we make errors on the first tackle.Why is it we always try to score on first tackle when we get the ball on there line.People can say what they want on here but we really r short of 2 house props

I have been in the neutral camp on the Noble issue but today was a probably a defeat too far.

There was just no structure at all, in defence and attack. The players looked like they didn't know what to do, chuck it to the nearest teammate and hope for the best. It was painful to watch. I was gutted I couldn't go to France this year but I feel sorry for those who shelled out their hard-earned cash to watch that garbage.

You cannot coach stupid passes and rushed offloads, but the question is, why are we playing like that in the first place? Why did our defence hang back and let the Catalans forwards steamroller us at pace? Why don't we have set moves, like the Bosc kick for Greenshields? Why is our play-the-ball so painfully slow?

Poorly coached and out-enthused again. If BN has any self-respect he'd hand in his cards tonight.

Abysmal peformance.

100% agree with you. Without Noble coming to us in 2006 I don't think we would be in SL right now. He's taken us as far as he can and I think he should leave sooner rather than later to salvage some dignity at least.

Noble has to go simple as. The team confidence is shot to bits but yet we still go out and play the same boring rugby that is getting us beat.

The players are playing badly and i really don't think he has the skills to shake them up and build some confidence back either. After the Saints game and the effort the players seemed to have put in I’m frankly disgusted with the drop after just four days and Noble has to take the blame.

Anyone who has played sport knows when your playing in a team low on confidence you own game starts to suffer and things you normally find routine even basics like catching and passing don’t come as easy as what they do when you’re tails are up.

Interesting idea, but my priority would be a new fitness coach. We simply aren't fit enough.

It would also be helpful if they practised some moves during training....

I agree with that. Ive been a staunt defender of Noble, I really want the guy to take us back to the top, but I really dont see it ever happening.

That being said, if IL thinks any coach will be successful with the back and halfbacks we have currently, he is sadly wrong.

an american football is smaller and pointier so it's easier to wedge against the inside of your elbow. I'm afraid it wouldn't work in league. Who we could use is their strength conditioners to build a more powerful pack!

Vince Lombardi would struggle with this shower no doubt. There is something not quite right with the playing squad, exemplified by players often not bothering to turn up to club events and training camps.

The performance of our front row tonight was nothing short of a disgrace, but credit to Catalan, they did what is needed to beat Wigan and that is see out your sets and have a decent kick game...

Fielden had a shocker and to me looks like he's lost a lot of the bulk that made him a quality player. Feka is carrying too much bulk and again not enough muscle mass for me, he looked a different player from the pictures of him scoring in his first game for us. Coley was ok, but wouldn't make most teams in SL... actually it's hard to find any positives from that...

Noble, players, administration... dunno the root cause, but there's a lot of work ahead if they have a shred of professional pride and actually want to acheive anything... I feel sorry in many respects for Gleeson, ok he's stepped up a level, but would have probably been better served heading back to Hudds.

I actually want this season to end right now.

At this rate it will be over in a month!

I have been fed up since the Wakefield game, was made up when we leathered Bradford but we didn't kick on from it!