Both very tough players but I'm not sure anyone outside of Wigan would have them in the same category in terms of the cheap stuff to be honest.

I have Peacock more as a toe to toe enforcer rather than purveyor of cheap shots. I think MM has a decent repertoire in the latter as I suspect their respective disciplinary records would likely show. I also can't imagine Peacock showing the lack of disregard for an injured player MM showed, nor laughing on camera when he realises he's got away with injuring an oppo.

Id imagine Peacocks is far worse, but hes an enforcer but MM isnt? Yeah ok

I agree with much of what you say and it’s what I’m getting at when I'm saying Micky Mac would cause scraps and be happy to be involved in one, whereas Peacock would usually just end up involved in them when he was defending a teammate.

One thing I don’t agree with is saying MM comes up with a lot of cheap shots. I think he gets plenty wrong but it’s because he throws so much force in to his tackles and like on Friday, when his timing is off, the results are terrible. He’s quite upfront about smashing people and isn’t doing it on the sly. I suppose it’s how you define ‘cheap shots’ but I’d be looking more at incidents like Westwood on Blake Green or Shaun Mengennis punching Tuson from behind. I don’t recall MM being involved in many incidents like that.

I think that Shaun Maguiniss was in the same game as and was started by LMS trying to do what Tomkins did to Myler to Hock.

again Ive seen peacock plenty of times, in fact nearly every time throw the first punch in the ones hes involved in, think there was only the fielden/mason one he didnt throw the first one

I guess you can point me to all his charges then? Looked at the RFL discliplinary and he appears to have been charged once between 2009 and retiring for Leeds (for punching). Can't see anything before then, maybe they're not online, but MM certainly has more, including the cheap stuff like off the ball high tackles and what we saw last week.

Happy to be corrected but I trust my eyes having watched both players play.

I once went to Chester zoo and saw Micky Mac destroy 4 elephants one after tother. Anyone who thinks Micky is a coward is a pillock. Simple as that.

MM isn't a coward and he has a fair bit to his game, but unfortunately for me his starting point is a good 2 yards the wrong side of the legal line.
Arguably not that many players in the game today that far offside, now the 70s was a different matter - but that's the point. We're not in the 70s.
I understand the point of view that it often looks bad when he miss-times things because he puts so much force into the efforts, but he never seems to learn.

From a quick google I've found McIlorum has been sent off at least 4 times, couldn't find any evidence of Peacock being sent off(not that I want to encourage the stupid comparison).

A player from one team being a thug is irrelevant to a player from another team being a thug. It's stupid whataboutery.

McIlorum's a house and I love him for it.

Nope!

thats what we were saying before, how many proper punch ups has he had? plenty, but not sent off.

They are on ze list!

Those were in the days that you could have a dust up and stay on the pitch, or at the very most get a yellow card. When it went to a red card for anyone throwing a punch Peacock et al suddenly stopped fighting, as was shown at Magic when him and Micky Mac didn’t throw one between them.

was 2014, he retired in 2016, him and MM was 2014 and was involved and charged that year for punching and fighting

Wasn't the Bateman punch up after it supposedly went to straight red too?

Anyone throwing a punch isn't necessarily a red card. Depends on severity and game context.

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he wasnt banned for that and was sin binned during the game

OK? Like I just said, throwing a punch isn't necessarily a red card. Depends on severity and game context. Rightly or wrongly the disciplinary are a law unto themselves.

Love that Peacock gets thrown on his twice after he starts throwing punches

yeah I know, but should carry a suspension especially with his previous, he punched 2 players

Meh, I reckon he missed with two of the three punches he threw. The disciplinary do seem to be a bit inconsistent though.

Bring back the biff. Sick of handbags at dawn, don’t get me wrong I don’t want to see punch ups every week but there’s nothing like a good old punch up in a game

I believe it was similar to direct contact to the head being a straight red. More a directive than an actual rule. They both lasted for around the same length of time too before being completely ignored

It's all game context and severity. They can't have it any other way otherwise you would be red carding light slaps.

Don't you remember? That was exactly what was happening. There were two sendings off (sending offs?...who knows!?) In consecutive matches, one involving Charnley for Wire (can't remember who the other one was) where one was a genuine hit and the other no more than a tickle but both were sendings off due to the new directive. There was quite a bit of fuss about it at the time. Not dissimilar to Gildart getting sinbinned for rubbing someone's head and then it never happing again...