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| Quote ="100% Warrior"As a replacement for Deacon? Definately.
However, I still think Sam Tomkins best position is in the halves, he's wasted at FB. IMO it should be Amos Roberts at FB and Sam and Finch in the halves.'"
Doesn't look like he is leaving HKR but I'd love him here and I agree with your point re Sam half and Roberts FB...
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"However, I still think Sam Tomkins best position is in the halves, he's wasted at FB.'"
How can you say he is wasted at fullback after last season? What makes you think he is wasted at fullback?
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| Quote ="cadoo"How can you say he is wasted at fullback after last season? What makes you think he is wasted at fullback?'"
The fact that he creates/scores loads of trys? Makes try saving tackles against bigger men? Can see the gaps better so makes more breaks?
Dunno.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Makes try saving tackles against bigger men?'"
When?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"When?
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I've seen him do plenty im not going to go through them all, one that stands out is one on Kylie Leuluai I think it was (or one of their other fat props) against Leeds last year at Headingley. He tackles way above his weight. His only problem at Fullback is catching bombs, which can be worked on - and thats only highlighted at the moment because Richards is not playing.
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| Quote ="cadoo"How can you say he is wasted at fullback after last season? What makes you think he is wasted at fullback?'"
I think he can play 6 or FB equally well. I just think that Roberts at FB and Sam at 6 is stronger than Sam at FB and Deacon at 6.
I think although Sam can be devastating from FB at times, he gets more of the ball at 6 where I think he can be more effective.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"trusts issues?
[uim sure as long as its all stuff being already said in the public domain then it is ok,[/u
but hey im not the one with the delete button,'"
Correct but I've been around here long enough to know that it won't stay as a discussion about stuff that's already in the public domain. Soon enough some moron will come along saying he's heard that Gleeson spit roasted a dog with Joel Monaghan whilst sniffing powdered refreshers off it's back.
If only you had mod privileges and could see the stuff that's already been trashed. You'd fully understand then.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I think he can play 6 or FB equally well. I just think that Roberts at FB and Sam at 6 is stronger than Sam at FB and Deacon at 6.
I think although Sam can be devastating from FB at times, he gets more of the ball at 6 where I think he can be more effective.'"
I'm not disputing the above.
It was the comment that he is 'wasted' at fullback is one I don't get. As you admit to, the lad is absolutely devastating at fullback. The way he chimes into the line from fullback can be almost unstoppable for some teams.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I'm not disputing the above.
It was the comment that he is 'wasted' at fullback is one I don't get. As you admit to, the lad is absolutely devastating at fullback. The way he chimes into the line from fullback can be almost unstoppable for some teams.'"
Agreed. But tbf most teams couldn't stop him at 6 either.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I've seen him do plenty im not going to go through them all, one that stands out is one on Kylie Leuluai I think it was (or one of their other fat props) against Leeds last year at Headingley. He tackles way above his weight. His only problem at Fullback is catching bombs, which can be worked on - and thats only highlighted at the moment because Richards is not playing.'"
If you watch the opposition highlights from this season so far you'll quite often see him get overpowered by the try scorer, this along with his inability to take bombs is why I'd rather see him at stand off, where he has more attacking responsibilities and less defensive.
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| Rumour has it that we're currently interested in taking Ben Farrar from Catalans.
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"Rumour has it that we're currently interested in taking Ben Farrar from Catalans.'"
Where have you heard that?
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"Rumour has it that we're currently interested in taking Ben Farrar from Catalans.'"
If replacement for Glees he'd be a good signing...
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| Given the lack of communication from the club regarding said player, is it possible he has been given a final written warning as part of a disciplinary process?
It seems a bit of a long shot this but I am surprised at the length of time this is taking.
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Given the lack of communication from the club regarding said player, is it possible he has been given a final written warning as part of a disciplinary process?
It seems a bit of a long shot this but I am surprised at the length of time this is taking.'"
As nothing has been reported, never say never.
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| Quote ="MattyB"As nothing has been reported, never say ANYTHING.'"
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| Quote ="Geoff"Fixed...'"
That as well.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Correct but I've been around here long enough to know that it won't stay as a discussion about stuff that's already in the public domain. Soon enough some moron will come along saying he's heard that Gleeson spit roasted a dog with Joel Monaghan whilst sniffing powdered refreshers off it's back.
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Did he? Why don't you start a thread on this, Lee?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"If you watch the opposition highlights from this season so far you'll quite often see him get overpowered by the try scorer, this along with his inability to take bombs is why I'd rather see him at stand off, where he has more attacking responsibilities and less defensive.'"
And is easier to direct forwards at him. At fullback, he can see the whole of the attacking line, choosing where to attack the gaps. Worked for Lockyer.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"And is easier to direct forwards at him. At fullback, he can see the whole of the attacking line, choosing where to attack the gaps. Worked for Lockyer.'"
but Lockyer is/was a better defender
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| Lockyer being a better defender is a damning indictment, if there ever was one.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Lockyer being a better defender is a damning indictment, if there ever was one.'"
Perhaps I'm just a bit old school but I can't comprehend the idea of having a full back who isn't a great defender and solid under the high ball. That should be the key quality of a full back before you even look at attacking abilities IMO.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Perhaps I'm just a bit old school but I can't comprehend the idea of having a full back who isn't a great defender and solid under the high ball. That should be the key quality of a full back before you even look at attacking abilities IMO.'"
I share the exact same sentiment. Fullback is the last line of defence.
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| Whatever happend to that young Mathers chap? He seemed to show promise.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I share the exact same sentiment. Fullback is the last line of defence.'"
So how do you rate Brett Hodgson?
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