Exactly, it gets so boring. At least Wire tried to play some exciting rugby, although I do think they need to calm down at times and not try to offload in their own half when their in the lead.

IMO that's exactly what's going on. A point lost on all the trolls who came on here over the weekend was that Wigan fans were incensed by Kear's BBC commentary because he did more than anyone to get this bandwagon rolling. Now it's in full swing and with cynical opportunists like Hetherington throwing his weight behind it - we'll see more of the same from the officials.

You do have to despair (as a fan) when the people who run our game bend with the wind. And despite what the trolls say, it's hard to shake the impression all the fuss is being created because we're Wigan. Personally I don't think Cummings needs much of an excuse.

God knows how Ian Lenagan is supposed to fight back - it's not just the other coaches, the referees, now the other chairmen are joining in.

Did they hammer away at the QPTB when saints were the best at doing that? Even though other teams were also trying to use it.

We play exciting rugby but it leaves you feeling drained, funnily enough TS didn't complain about Wigan even though you beat us. At the end of the day you play what's in front of you and come up with a game plan to do it.

and thats exactly what alot of people need to understand. Yea I can imagine it does drain you, even I was going crazy at them watching the constant unnecessary offloads.

Whatever you may say in defence of your style of play this season, the match on Sunday was a whole lot better to watch than the match on Saturday because the match on Sunday actually had life to it whereas the match on Sunday was as slow as any yawnion game I've seen. Some of that was down to the conditions, of course, but some of it was because the defensive nature of the play made it a bit of a snoozefest.

Leeds gave away just as many as us so the argument doesnt hold up at all

I'd put nearly all of it down to the conditions to be honest, we've create chances against whoever we've played this year and we just struggled to get the backs involved.

Remember the Celtic v Saints game in similar conditions last year, one try in the whole match if i recall ?

Yes, I put it down to conditions, they were awful, the ball must have been like a bar of soap, pity we didn't have Sunday's weather, but so be it.
I do think the refs are caning us and are influenced by all the media hype from every man and his dog.
Hopefully we will get decent weather for the next few weeks and get back to the good attacking rugby we were playing, Amos back to his best after a couple of run outs, is he ok, was limping a bit at one point.

That's true. But there were no penalties kicked either.

And, to be fair, we had no attack last season. It went on vacation at Easter and didn't return until the second match of this season.

Not really, the same was said regarding Huddersfield slowing the play the ball down last season, for me I enjoy the defensive part of the game, i was always told to count to 5 then move off the tackle, it's the messing around at the play the ball from Wigan/Huddersfield etc that goes un-penalised that annoys me, although its not just these two teams who do it, we were guilty of it a few times yesterday

Yeah great idea, lets base are opinions that the game of Rugby League is becoming boring on one game.



I am genuinely concerned that are effective tactics will slowly and wrongfully be eroded away by the powers that be, just because a few prominent figures within the game voice there opinions that are style of rugby is spoiling the game. Those prominent figures are only airing there views not for the good of the game, but to ensure that there own clubs tactics continue to go under the radar while at the same time proving to be very successful for them and them only.

It's about time that someone at the club stands up and defends are corner. Otherwise the naysayers will continue to have there way influencing the games officials until we at Wigan are so heavily penalized we'll be forced to change are game, ultimately allowing Hetherington and all his sheep to win.

And it's the hilarious revisionism of prats like you that annoys me.

You do know that 'our' and 'are' happen to be two different words?

I do agree though.

What about the "other" club?

I do, but I've always had problems with which is which.

And don't even get me started on which there or their to use.

I'm just thankful that I'm not required to have good spelling at work, or they'd have got rid of me a long time ago.

I'm the same, I'm terrible with spelling.

What "other" club?

I can't see in the post you've quoted where I refer to the "other" club.



Well who the hell are you to judge.

Some of our attacking play yesterday was a joy to watch, our first try had some great offloads in it.

The report mentions more then one coach so clearly its not an anti Wigan thing because "its hard to defeat us" as there is another club doing it according to Hetherington

For me it's clearly an anti-Wigan statement from Hetherington. The Giants and Nathan Brown also get a mention because of there use of similar tactics to ourselves.

As you'll be aware this isn't the first criticism of Wigan's style of play this year and no doubt it won't be the last. It just infuriates me that a rival chairman would come out and make derogatory comments clearly directed at two other clubs about the style of play they choose to play.

For me watching defense is as good as watching attack. It takes some good rugby to get through our defense at the min. I do think some one from the club needs top step up and speak out regarding these comments. Too many people have too much to say about Wigan's tactics.

Wigan are not doing anything wrong in the ruck.

Its a joy to watch and others are jealous.

isn't it a coincidence that the 2 games at home this year where we murdered hull and wakefield with some superb attacking rugby end up with 2 bitter yorkshire coaches (agar and e.t) slagging off our tactics to disguise their own shortcomings. unfortunately the bandwagon is now growing and this will always be in the minds of the match officials when we play.

Do I have a new addition to my ever growing list?

I'm tempted to rename it the Anti-Michael MaGuire bandwagon.