Bar the 3 they produced! Oh hang on a min wasnt one of those hudson? who was sold to Cas? I may be wrong, but a few months ago i had a huddersifield fan having a go for the same thing! And he counted Hudson as a huddersfield product.

Goulding really has been very good for us since he came. He has made a huge difference to our defense on the right and we have barely conceded a try down that side since he came. This was far and away our biggest weakness before he came and he has stopped that and has also been good in attack. He will be a big loss for us tomorrow. I really cant believe the way he was treated at Wigan.

I know that Salford would love to sign him permanently but was told that a few clubs had tried to sign him permanently before he came to us, Leeds, the Hull clubs and Warrington were mentioned, but Wigan wouldnt let him go. That is why his loan move to us was delayed as he wanted to leave permanently and not on loan but Wigan wouldn’t let him. I therefore think we would have little chance of getting him if he did leave although I do know that he is enjoying it here.

How's Batley doing these days?

Theres not many we'd want back.

Briscoe is one but went of his own accord because he knew Radlinski was blocking his path.

Wild and Tickle are probably the only other 2 who'd get in our 17 and even Tickle was signed and didn't come through our own system.

I cant think of a Wigan produced hooker we let go since john clarke. So no on that score.

And as for bailey, he was signed as a centre who replaced Paul Johnson (last wigan centre to be released if memory serves). And to be fair i think PJ needed a change after the death of his brother.

If you mean would i prefer us to have kept wild instead of Bailey, then no is the answer. Wild has the heart of a pea! And is IMO not as good as Hock, Lockers, Hanson and will not do the hard work that Bailey has done.

However can you show me a club who produces as many juniors as wigan and keeps hold of them. I can only think of leeds, who do a fantastic job in junior development.

Mark Smith.

Funny how the OP's examples of released players are one that was released due to non-Rugby related circumstances and one that hasn't been released, just out on loan.

People really need to do their research before getting on their high horse.

I knew there was one, just couldnt think, but he is hardly tearing up superleague, is he? However why let that stop us being called for it hey?

Is he still at Widnes?

Which young home grown world beating hooker have we released to make way for Riddell?

Clarke?
Smith?
Talbot?

Like who exactly. You come on here with your knickers and facts in a twist and still fail to produce any examples to back up your point?

So come on lets be specific who are these awesome players we have let go? Unless you are able to do this i would suggest you will continue to look very very silly.

i'm looking thru this guys posts, can't say i can spot a board that he HASNT been on....

Yep. He's the long-haired, caveman-looking captain of the mighty Widnes - Hardly a huge loss.

Yeah but we should have kept all 3 because they're British! infact we should carry a squad of 197 players but they must all be British......doesn't matter if they're average!

It makes me laugh when opposition fans throw this at Wigan yet when you look at the likes of Wild, Brown and Robinson against Hock, O'Loughlin and Hansen theres only the last 3 that are international players!

So surely we're keeping the right ones



but then like Huddersfield/Wakey/Quins fans etc will say they're only internationals because they play for Wigan............we can't win.

I'd suggest you do your homework a little better next time, Bulldog man. You've been made to look a right plonker.

PLONKER hahahahaha....i love the banter on this site

I suppose the real question that needs to be answered is why have the likes of Brown, Robinson and Wild, not to mention the likes of Paul Johnson or Lee Gilmour, never really reached the heights that many believed they would when they first came onto the scene?

none of the players mentioned in this thread are fat enought to fit in with Noble's transfer criteria. However as Leneghan seems to be the owner and now scout, you'll probably end up with 3 or 4 past it average aussies.

If you want to see what effect this will have just have a look at our team in previous seasons - lots of big ego'd superstars who think they are the team.

genius.

Previous seasons??????

still are

Che Smith is getting them sorted. He made it clear he only wants team players. It was clear he would take no S... when he sold gleeson to you.

Its surprising you are not calling our trusted leader, Dick Turpin after his highway robbery in getting £100k and an honest full back for a trouble maker with a bad attitude.

because nobody else in the league would have bought him for 50p.

Don't flatter yourself. There's nothing Wire can EVER teach Wigan, and there never has been.

Even with the crap side we've had in recent years, wev've got to semi-final after semi-final. The closest you've got is being French for a day - as if anyone gave a sh8t whose side you lot were on.

Because they were overhyped when they first appeared for Wigan?

Though Gilmour has been an excellent signing for us.

No - they were overhyped after they left, when it suited people to make it appear that we'd released some exceptional talent.

Noble to replace riddell ?

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We didn't even release Gilmour.

He spat his dummy out because he didn't want to play in a certain position.