Currie on Powell was worse. In fact, far worse.

Should he be burnt at the stake or will they let him off with a day in the stocks ?

I think he'll get four games. If this was his first offence he'd probably get 3 but it's not.
Imagine if he got two games, returned for the GF and had another brain explosion. I think the panel will ensure this can't happen.

Great to see all the usual suspects on here.

Equally great to know how peeved they all that this time, Flower's sending off didn't gift the opposition victory.

Im suprised the RFL conspiricy theories havent been rolled out yet.

WIGAN > rfl

I've seen some on the Wire board. Apparently Sky wanted us to win so next weeks Hull/Wire game wasn't a dead rubber.

Shock horror lets ignore the knee to the wigan players head and the shoulder charge on Tierney

To be fair my point can be switched to any sending off very rarely will the supporters of the player sent off accept, admit it was as bad as xan be perceived same as opposition fans will always make out it was worse than it was.

Don't think that curries was as bad as made out either, I've said it before n say it again the rfl are failing the players in jot offering any protection to them in instances like curries n the general desperation to prevent a try that happens every week are we going to have to wait for a severe injury or worse before they take player safety seriously. I don't want the game nerfed or softened whatsoever bur I don't want the players facing unnecessary risks to their health.


Careless is just as bad as intentional for me and should not be allowed as a mitigating factor.

Remember the Widnes game where K Brown was penalised multiple times for high tackles, and there were others?

Where as the outrage for that? Long bans etc.

Only 3 games left so id imagine gone for the year

Surely he should be put on a piece of toast and grilled.

I can't agree with this. If you apply that to the Flower incident, by careless I mean he was going to put pressure on the kicker, turned his back as the ball was kicked and stuck an arm up and caught him with the elbow in the head. If it were intentional he would have been looking where he was targeting and applied a lot more force. Patten would not have got up again. There has to be a difference between the two.

As others have pointed out, even Tony Smith said the red card was harsh.

It migjt not of been intentional but at the end of the day he connects on the chin. Intention or not, its a red.

Id say 90% of suspensions are not intentional but its still foul play.

I think defo a red and e game ban.

Before all the wigan fans jump on me claiming im biased as im saints fan, i was one of the few that thought the last flower suspension was ott

I was disagreeing with a poster who said that an offence deemed as careless should be punished in the same way as one deemed intentional. If that was intentional it should be 10 matches, I don't think it was. If you read my previous posts you will see I thought it should have been a red and 2 - 3 game suspension.

Well i agree with that

great game and wigan where brill, but flower has to get a ban , imo if you lead with an elbow to someones face/jaw you are risking serious injury to that player a bit higher and it could have broken his jaw, no need for it, yes you need to challenge the kicker and let them know your there but that was bad, anyway well played wigan and again a great game

I can't figure out why the crusher on Clubb wasn't looked at when it happened.

Well yeah, you're right, that's how the grading system works (or is supposed to...). Careless is grade A-B, reckless is C-D, intentional is D-F.

Will he then appeal the ban, and get let off for his impeccable disciplinary record.

Unsurprisingly, we also have contributions to this thread by fans from clubs who, as usual, have nothing else to talk about at this time of year.

Hey don't be mean, they're in a tough battle for 5th!

Am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad?

Regards

King James

No. Both coaches agree with you.

This. I can understand some of the outrage with how it looks and who did it but Flower isn't even looking at the lad, he's got an arm up to charge the ball and catches him badly on the way down. I can't argue with the red card and a possible 2-3 game ban because it was reckless, but I'm not seeing a deliberate attack.