Think people are starting to get annoyed with young Sam's acting skills.

Almost as tiring as the cheap shots your team perpetuated all sodding afternoon isn't it?

Stop trying to assault him then. Simples.

We'll see what Red Hall make of it then won't we.

Nah.. they're just annoyed he plays like a champion, in a champion team - that's all.

In a strange way i'm glad joel did that if teams know they can play us and start dishing it out with no comeback we will get it every week

He will be looking at 2 games imo but it was the refs fault for not controlling the game

finally some 1 on my wavelength we need players like joel or teams will tak the p**s ,I just watched the replay and it was nt even that bad, started at the chest then went up, There players was sh*t housing all game and got away with it

You got away with murder today.poor old Sam eh!,fancy 12st wet through Sam running at 16-17st Manu and getting put on his booty,then the crescendo of boo's and mister Ganson obliges with another penalty.I'll bet any of you that nothing will come of these defenseless attacks of poor Sam,because they were hard but fair tackles.

As regards to the penalties,were you lot watching a different match,we got to 10-4 up and then the penalties started to arrive,by the way what was the final penalty count.

Take your black and white specks off

Everything about your post is waaay off

Did you also notice that both your 2nd half tries were easily forward. You really got away with it this time.

I believe the penalty count was 13-6ish in Wigans favour. As for the 2 Tomkins brothers, they are both c0cks of the highest order.

No because they weren't. Any more questions?

And your lot didn't throw a forward pass all game

And Westerman dropped the ball over the tryline, whats your point?

My point is these tries shouldn't have stood and we could well have won the game.

Yes, when did you last go to the opticians, they were blatant, even if you factor in the momentum rule, not even close.

Never forward, next question

Not half as much as it should have been!!

Same old, same old from Agar. Exactly the same as last season at the DW. Came with the intent to spoil the game. I remember being flabbergasted when after the match last year, he started the Wigan lying on myth, when Hull were far worse all game. Now he calls us for cheap shots after…….

I wouldn’t care, but as the Hull fans agree he can’t even coach. Tool.

Since when was tackling by the throat legalised? I don't think you'd call it fair if Lima grabbed long by the neck and did the same would you?

At the end of the day, Wigan were very off-form, very under-strength and a man down for the last 25 minutes. Not only that, Hull were in front.

There is no way in the memory of man that Hull should have lost that match.

Agar can feel a pit opening underneath him, and rightly so. He's a crap coach and a typical Yorkshire whinger, who doesn't seem to realise that bleating to the press after yet another defeat makes him look even more like a loser. In fact, if he had L-O-S-E-R printed on his forehead, he couldn't look more like one than he does at this moment.

The sooner a top club like FC get rid of him and appoint someone who knows what he's doing, the better for the game in general.

That's all that needs to be said.

Get your facts right mate, you may well be right about Agar's coaching ability but what he says is spot on, if you think Wigan don't have a reputation for their underhand tactics in the tackle, go and ask fans opinions on other boards, it may help you remove those blinkers.

If you want to get the 'facts' about a club, the one group of people you don't ask are those with an axe to grind. So your advice is rightly and happily discarded.

The reality is, sadly, that your club is still miles from where it should be. Good players are going to age and become useless to you without getting anywhere near a Grand Final, if you don't get your house in order soon.

Bitch about us all you want - pick either imaginary or real issues (it won't matter to you either way, as you've proved on this thread) - but none of that will change the fact that you ned a new coach, a new chairman and a completely new attitude (that last part applies to you in particular).

Before you can even start to criticise other clubs, you need to get your own house in order in a big way. Agar can have an opinion after he's been back to Rugby League school and started to re-educate himself from page one up. Perhaps his first lesson should be that going out to clobber the opposition's little guys only works if you've got players who are actually capable of doing it.

Yep you maybe could of but you didnt did you, no good blaming the ref all the time i know Ganson wont have done Wigan any favours avid Saints fan, but like we used to be told not the referee that misses tackles or drops passes is it ???? I backed Fc with 12 start things will get better also did City KR and FC all to win oh well ..... Its a long season....