The reason we didnt capitalise on the 11 man part was because we lost fielden for those 10 too and he was having a great game imo.

I think we just lost sight of what we do best. Aggressive defence and quick attack. We got sucked into a 'we are harder than you' battle last night and forgot to play rugby. Although it was great to have a bit of biff back in the game, we simply did not respect the football enough and tried to score on every play instead of building pressure. How often did we get to the last tackle? when we did get there our kicking game (in general more than attcking wise) was awful , more often than not going straight down hodgsons throat. We were too ellaborate in attack and too many times just dropped the ball on an over complex play. Hudds tactics were spot on- disrupt our gameplan(niggle etc) and have a great kicking game. They mixed up their kicks and our centre/wings were all at sea.

bentham was useless(as always) but i didn't see him ,miss a tackle or drop a pass. Some of out top performers had mediocre games(Lockers,Tommy), but we can't expect them to be world beaters every week. Marsh/pryce combo didn't work and the backrow in general was poor.

Hopefully this is a blip and not us going backwards. It may well do prove to have a galvanising effect but i would prefer for us to go into the play-offs in form rather than limping over the line.

All this said, if someone had have offered us at least 3rd 12 months ago how many of us would have taken it?

Could not agree more.





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God! Your not going to go far on this board talking sense like that.

Excellent post.

Stop being paranoid.

You keep losing the games Bentham refs because you wasn't good enough. Fact.

Just like Wigan won't be good enough in the play-offs and will not be winning at Old Trafford,thats if you even get there.

Your not as good as you make out, so stop blaming Bentham for your own shortcomings.

Exactly, and the last time we did that was Warrington at home. What happened then? Shows exactly why over the course of a season we need a bit more size, class, and experience in our pack.

Exactly, that's why we're ahead of you in the league. And I don't believe your as good as you make out either, beaten Leeds or Saints in the cup either year yet?

When I read the heading of the post, 'Bentham/frightening statistics' I thought the poster was referring to his ample gut.

Whatever it is the stats don't lie. The stats sent me down to the bookies to back Hudds so thanks for the windfall. I hope Wigan don't get Bentham in the playoffs or I fear it will be curtains. I certainly don't think there's anything untoward here but if the fella is a Leigh fan it must make a difference no matter how honest you are. I'm not complaining as clearly Wigan didn't play well but maybe the raised expectations of a loss with Bentham at the helm does make a difference. Funny old thing all this subconcious psychology stuff. I'll definately go on betting against Wigan when he's reffing thats for sure.

Have you beaten Leeds or St Helens in the cup in the last 2 years either?

Your just bitter because we're going to Wembley and your not!

Nobody's bitter about a club the majority of us couldn't give a stuff about. Unlike the guy who looks suspiciously like he has to keep making new accounts so he can troll on the Wigan board. I'm sorry if you've been psychologically damaged from being a Wire fan for so long (though repeated use of the

emoticon suggests you might actually be only 14), but really they're not bad.

Try actually discussing rugby league on your own forum, rather than the epic fail attempts at trolling.

Oh where have all the good trolls gone



NOFL

So its trolling to tell you to stop whinging when you lose games Bentham refs and to remind you of our forthcoming trip to Wembley? Get real.

Wire are a club Wigan fans couldn't give a stuff about? We're your biggest rivals now. Get used to it.

I'd say Saints are our biggest rivals really, as they are going to finish second. And even if they don't, they'll still beat you in the first game.

Then Leeds, as they are a big club, and a better side than yourselfs but had a lot of injuries at the start of the season.

Maybe 3rd biggest rivals perhaps.

And no we haven't beaten Leeds or Saints in the cup this year, but at the same time I haven't started supporting Wigan since last year.

No mate, you've just got some of the most annoying posters on these forums. You will never ever come close to Saints as our rivals HTH

No comment on the brand new low post count account, all of which have been on the Wigan board - strange for a supposed Wire fan who's not trolling? At least try and be imaginative and creative and entertaining if you're going to troll, and if you have been banned from a forum, at least be man enough to take it rather than just keep making new accounts.

You got a bigger crowd at your rented stadium for the Wire game than the Saints match this season yet claim they are 'bigger rivals'?? Nonsense.

They are and always will be...now jog on

St Helens have been our biggest and most hated rivals for longer than anyone can remember. The amount of Finals, Semi Finals, Good Friday & Boxing Day derbies over the decades. Just because you're having a good run of form, and a couple of successful seasons, does not make you our closest or fiercest rivals.

Saints will always be our biggest/closest/fiercest rivals. Warrington are like that annoying kid in class who tries to hang around with the big boys to prove he is 'hard'.

I just can't help but feel a bit of jealousy and bitterness coming from you Wiganers towards the mighty Wire. We are a club very much on the up,a club that owns its own stadium with the best support in SL so have a bit of respect will you for what we are achieving.

Its also laughable you lot are talking up St Helens. Are you for real? We at Warrington regard ourselves as a bigger club than them.

Best support? Wigan, Leeds, Hull are better at least.

And how are you a bigger club than St Helens?

Best support? Our average home crowds for the season are more than your ground hold and so is Leeds, to be the best you would have to sell out EVERY game...do you? How are you bigger than Saints? In what respect......you call us due to us not winning things in recent years, which is fair enough. You cannot throw that at Saints can you?

You have a stadium paid for by Tesco in order for them to get planning permission for the store.....

Respect is a two way street keyboard warrior......

And that's your problem right there. Wigan and Saints have great history over the last 20 years, Wire don't. Wire haven't even been at the top of the ladder for 10 years, yes your doing ok now but let's see if you can contain that level for the next 5-10 years that both Wigan and Saints have done. That's why we respect them more than you.

'Cause they won the Challenge Cup last year

WRONG !!!!

[uHome Average Crowds with 2 Rounds to go[/u:

Wigan 15,612
Leeds 15,372
Hull FC 13,524
St. Helens 10,959
Warrington 10,784