There were more Leeds supporters present than Wigan supporters. With a name like "Bentham" what would you expect other than "the greatest happiness principal?"

Isn't there a fuss over this re Quins?
Where they have received far fewer penalties at home due to their small crowds not putting pressure on refs as fans do at larger grounds.

thought wigan had some soft penalties to like seniors kick on joel tomkins

UMMMM

How exactly was that "a soft penalty" ?????

Senior clearly kicks out and makes contact with our player.

It was deemed to be accidental, therefore it was simply a penalty.

Easiest way to explain it is to reiterate what Bentham said when questioned (yet again) by Sinfield:



I may have missed a couple of words here or there, but that is almost word-for-word what Sinfield was told.

Accidental trip is a red card isnt it? Accidental kick in the face is just a penalty? Doesnt seem right to me.

When somebody does a deliberate high tackle because if he didnt it would lead to a try its just a penalty? Doesnt seem right to me.

Sin bin for when somebody takes out the kicker even though he is in the air on his way toward the man before he kicks it? Doesnt seem right to me.

We lost by not nailing Leeds but nobody can say with any justification that the big decisons didnt go against us because they did.

No.

No.
Tripping used to be an automatic sending off but not anymore.

Cheers for clearing that up, thought it seemed very unfair. What is it now? 10 mins?

Just a pen i think.

Sinfield did well today to get a word in edgeways with O'Loughlin and Sam Tomkins blabbing in Benthams earhole at every available minute.

Anyway, if Bentham played to the crowd, how come Coley was not sent off??

who in their right mind would give that as a sending off?

bear in mind we are on about 50/50 decisions, thats not a 50/50 decision just the regular whinos.

Speak to Mounis and Scruton about it! there was no 50/50 about it - my only pop about this is that refs are so inconsistant - it is either a sending off or not.

some can look worse than others, and some can actually be worse, i actually think andy coley went to drive the player back, but for one reason or another, he ended up on his head



It didnt look as bad as some of the other tackles, and the play wasnt lifted horizontally, like normal spear tackles, it was an odd one for sure!

Saints move to a new ground, and the inevitable redevelopment of the South Stand at Leeds will do away with the 2 stands that put the most pressure on refs in the league and it cant come soon enough.

FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coincidently, two clubs that have their own grounds........

I could of sworn leeds share headingly??????

DUHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Did anybody else notice that Fielden put his hand under the Leeds player's head in that tackle when he was falling backwards so it didn't hit the ground? Honourable play.

I think you'll find that :

1 - The redevelopment of the South Stand at Leeds won't happen (now) until the end of the 2011 season at the earliest, from what I hear.

2 - When it does go, it will be replaced with a stand of similar size and that will be predominately STANDING .....

I think Wigan fans were a lot louder than the home fans today.

Deliberately sticking leg out is 10 mins, an accidental trip is just a penalty..raising leg and deliberatley tripping is red in amateur game, on report pro game, as ur deliberatley trying to cause injury.

no doubt senior knew what he was doing yesterday, there was malice in that kick. Thought farrells sin binning was really harsh, he was committed to the challenge, perhaps the fact that he was jumping made it worse?

Can't see anything coming of coleys tackle, it was just aggressive. He just drove him back and nothing more.

Think the problem we have is that some referees are just not good enough ie Albert and Silverwood while other referees seem to think everyone is there to watch them and think they are above the players ie Ganson, Bentham Hicks!
To many games now are being influenced by referees. I wouldnt mind if pens were consistant but to many times pens are hit and miss for offences.