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| Quote ="Seth"Quick and supports well, though poor decision maker and weak defensively. As mentioned earlier a slightly better version of Dwyer.'"
I think that is a fair summary apart from the Dwyer reference. Dwyer is very poor defensively.
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| Quote ="christopher"Leeds fan here in peace.
Leeming is a good player and will have some great games, but he has his weaknesses.
He was more often than not taking the wrong option on important plays and isn't a 9 who distributes and works well with the half backs, largely this is the reason Rohan Smith preferred O'Conner (who is now a better hooker IMO!)
Leemings defence is pretty ropey for a nine, often pushed off in contact and can be a bit lazy in his defensive duties.
I think he's an OK signing for you guys but 4 years is way too long IMO and I would wager that e doesn't see out his contract just as he didn't for Hudds and Leeds, and he basically threw his toys out of the pram with us when it was obvious he didn't want to share the hooking duties and got dropped as captain.
From what Ive seen I think you've got a better player in O'Neil.'"
I would agree with that. I don’t see Leeming being at Wigan more than two years if O’Neill and Forber continue to improve. If I was Rads both of those two lads would be on long term deals.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"It is - I just hope Brad O'Neill isn't inclined to look elsewhere. He's really progressed over the last few months and hopefully Wigan have reassured him that he's still a big part of the plan going forward. Definitely think its the right decision to move on from Powell but O'Neill and Leeming need to be looked at as equals with the best performer starting.
Notice Saints fans comparing him to their potential signing in Daryl Clark and most saying they have the better deal. Not sure on that one - there are pros and cons to both. Clark has definitely reached heights that Leeming hasn't got to yet. But then his recent form has been generally poor, he's 3-4 years older and his game mostly centred around his pace from.duy half (something that he won't have as much of at 31).'"
It will also be interesting to see how/if the Aussies have improved Leeming.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Good signings there. Whether they will all be successful time will tell. Just shows where the club think our problem area is when they sign a complete front row and announce them all within 24 hours.
As for departures, Mago and Singleton obviously but Cust now seems vulnerable and Powell appears to be on the outer. Cust back to Auis and Powell to Hudds. They miss Levi and Watson may try something different with Powell.'"
It was as obvious as the nose on their face. We have tried to fix it up with Singo, Mago, Ellis and Cooper and we have had limited success.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"When he's good he's excellent. He's quick out of dummy half, kicks well from deep out of dummy half, and is a good support player. However, his decision making is erratic, his defence for a hooker is poor, and his distribution isn't what you'd expect from a top 9. He's basically a better version of Brad Dwyer.'"
Think you’re being kind. Not as quick, or dynamic as Dwyer. Be interesting to see how he go’s, as Wigan take a good defensive 9 as absolutely granted…..
Leeming is not that….
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| 4 years for a hooker who can’t pass to the right and can’t tackle? Who’s only threat of being busy around the ruck has been nullified by refs allowing defenders to lie on at the Ruck? This is a terrible signing
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"4 years for a hooker who can’t pass to the right and can’t tackle? Who’s only threat of being busy around the ruck has been nullified by refs allowing defenders to lie on at the Ruck? This is a terrible signing'"
Interesting times ahead with Wire, Saints and now Wigan all freshening up their 9s.
I still think Clark is the best of the 3 on the move but he in my opinion has almost impossible boots to fill and a squad very much going into a transitional phase.
Given your track record on here I’m though in regards “scoops” and general cluelessness in relation to posts I’m confident he will be a good addition to the Wigan squad.
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| Imho think you’d be better off with Powell/O’Neill. You have two magical players in the backs who can create.
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| I love the amount of opposition fans who are ripping the Leeming signing about the place, as though we’re totally dependant on him being a raging success. I think he’ll go well but either way, we’ll be fine. We’ve got Brad O’Neill developing very nicely and Tom Forber waiting for an opportunity.
The concern is nice but don’t be worrying about us, we’ll be absolutely fine. We’re making promising signings, have more to come and have 3 or 4 young players, playing either here or on loan, who look the real deal.
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| Leeming will go just fine for Wigan. He's not without flaws but a big upgrade on Powell. Dont forget he was in the SL dream team 18 months ago and Peet and co have already shown capability in improving players. Its not a coincidence that the majority of critics are either Leeds fans annoyed that he fell out with Rohan Smith or those from the other side of Billinge Hill.
As I said earlier in the thread, as long as Leeming and O'Neill are treated as equals and the best is chosen to start then I'm more than happy.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Leeming will go just fine for Wigan. He's not without flaws but a big upgrade on Powell. Dont forget he was in the SL dream team 18 months ago and Peet and co have already shown capability in improving players. Its not a coincidence that the majority of critics are either Leeds fans annoyed that he fell out with Rohan Smith or those from the other side of Billinge Hill.
As I said earlier in the thread, as long as Leeming and O'Neill are treated as equals and the best is chosen to start then I'm more than happy.'"
All the signings we’ve made are rubbish. I saw it on Red Vee, so we may as well turn it in.
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| Has a side other than Saints ever signed a good player according to the RL oracle that is RedVee?
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| The 30 yr old bench warmer they've signed from Wire is miles better than Leeming and that's a fact (according to RedVee)
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| Quote ="apollosghost"The 30 yr old bench warmer they've signed from Wire is miles better than Leeming and that's a fact (according to RedVee)'"
Historically they would be spot on but maybe not so much now. Depends if a change of scenery re-energises him
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Leeming will go just fine for Wigan. He's not without flaws but a big upgrade on Powell. Dont forget he was in the SL dream team 18 months ago and Peet and co have already shown capability in improving players. Its not a coincidence that the majority of critics are either Leeds fans annoyed that he fell out with Rohan Smith or those from the other side of Billinge Hill.
As I said earlier in the thread, as long as Leeming and O'Neill are treated as equals and the best is chosen to start then I'm more than happy.'"
Again I don`t think we were annoyed he fell out with Smith.
It was the way he sulked when not getting what he wanted which imo is not how one of the senior players should react.
Leeds fans on here are only commenting because someone asked what we thought about the signing.
Most hookers in the league have errors in them and on the other hand can turn a game on its head.
You will get that with Leeming for sure.
The best hooker by far still is Roby with the likes of O`Neil certainly one to watch.
I think the only concern I would have as a Wigan fan would be the 4 years contract Leeming has.
We tend to be the ones who dish out those sort of contracts.
Walters on the other hand is a great signing for you just like McDonnell is for us.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Again I don`t think we were annoyed he fell out with Smith.
It was the way he sulked when not getting what he wanted which imo is not how one of the senior players should react.
Leeds fans on here are only commenting because someone asked what we thought about the signing.
Most hookers in the league have errors in them and on the other hand can turn a game on its head.
You will get that with Leeming for sure.
The best hooker by far still is Roby with the likes of O`Neil certainly one to watch.
I think the only concern I would have as a Wigan fan would be the 4 years contract Leeming has.
We tend to be the ones who dish out those sort of contracts.
Walters on the other hand is a great signing for you just like McDonnell is for us.'"
4 years is what concerns me, not the signing itself
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| Quote ="chapylad"Again I don`t think we were annoyed he fell out with Smith.
It was the way he sulked when not getting what he wanted which imo is not how one of the senior players should react.
Leeds fans on here are only commenting because someone asked what we thought about the signing.
Most hookers in the league have errors in them and on the other hand can turn a game on its head.
You will get that with Leeming for sure.
The best hooker by far still is Roby with the likes of O`Neil certainly one to watch.
I think the only concern I would have as a Wigan fan would be the 4 years contract Leeming has.
We tend to be the ones who dish out those sort of contracts.
Walters on the other hand is a great signing for you just like McDonnell is for us.'"
It is a long deal for us that but I can only presume it’s been offered on the basis that we give him longer term security, in exchange for him accepting a lower salary than he would’ve asked for on a 2 year deal. His style of play suits our needs IMO. Matty Peet has made a point of assuring Brad O’Neill that he is a major part of the future and I think there is a nice balance between the 2 of them.
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| I wonder what his salary will be? He was on close to 200k at Leeds and apparently Catalans weren't willing to meet his demands, so he'll probably be on a lot more than Powell.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"£200K p.a. ???'"
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What a load of Boll****
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Quote ="Jack Burton"Around that, apparently.'"
What a load of Boll****
He is a better player than most are giving credit to and he will create far more mayhem for the opposition than your current hookers and if your speedsters are on his shoulder they will make hay'"
We do need a threat through the middle , I would love to see French and Field getting space down the middle of the pitch
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| Quote ="stpatricks"We do need a threat through the middle , I would love to see French and Field getting space down the middle of the pitch'"
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I wonder what his salary will be? He was on close to 200k at Leeds and apparently Catalans weren't willing to meet his demands, so he'll probably be on a lot more than Powell.'" Not in a million years would Hetherington approve a contract for a player like Leeming on that sort of money
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