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| Just seen this story. There's never a dull moment lately is there ? Dear oh dear.
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| Being a Wigan fan is anything but dull.
On a serious note if and when he is found guilty he deserves everything he gets. I’m gutted as I think he is a brilliant player with lots of potential but it opens up a door for one of our youngsters who played excellently at the weekend.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"It’s not just Wigan, I have a good source with strong links to another Superleague team and the stories I hear it’s rife there, in fact it’s rife in society now as a whole.'"
If it’s us Craig, we’re getting the wrong type.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"I saw two current first teamers doing cocaine in a toilet last September after a Thursday night match. Two high profile players. It's rife. I am not going to name them but this club 's culture is appalling. The only way to stomp it out of the game is to do hair follicle tests once a week. Scumbags.'"
I think you need to get over that chip on your shoulder. I'd hardly label someone doing a bit of coke as a 'scumbag'.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I think you need to get over that chip on your shoulder. I'd hardly label someone doing a bit of coke as a 'scumbag'.'"
I see it differently; by buying that crap you contribute to the misery that "industry" causes across the world. From the people who are forced to grow it, the people who traffic it, forced or not, the dealers and the violence that the gangs and cartels inflict on anyone and everyone around them.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I think you need to get over that chip on your shoulder. I'd hardly label someone doing a bit of coke as a 'scumbag'.'"
I also see this as being a lowering of accepted standards and linked to criminality.
In my town, it's these low lifes who charge around town speeding in cars or whatever, hyped up on this stuff. One of these idiots drove from Leeds to my town of Rochdale in 11 minutes ! Then proceeded to kill some innocent when driving through a red light at over 100mph. The idiot posted a vid on YT of himself doing over 130mph on the M62. He got over 6yrs in jail but the victims family have been campaigning ever since to have that sentence raised.
They don't call it 'Colombian marching powder' for nothing.
When they are on it they are a damned nuisance. In my local 'spoons' the bogs are constantly being used by the 'herberts' who sniff this stuff constantly. Why would they do this in there ? At the moment, all the ale is £1.99 a pint and some of it is over 6% strength.
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| Quote ="fleabag"
When they are on it they are a damned nuisance. In my local 'spoons' the bogs are constantly being used by the 'herberts' who sniff this stuff constantly. Why would they do this in there ? At the moment, all the ale is £1.99 a pint and some of it is over 6% strength.'"
It allows them to drink all night long until the early hours and feel alright, not be drunk or hungover either, if they get into a scrap they won’t feel anything either. I’d say the 24 hour drinking propagated this issue, before then everywhere closed at 2pm and went home.
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| Quote ="post"Players literally can take drugs but not on game day, something like that I’ve heard. Eg if they test positive during competition which is on the day of a game they get banned, if it’s the day after then they don’t.'"
Basically cocaine is prohibited “in competition” which means from 12 hours prior to a RL game to the post match urine tests afterwards. If tested outside of this period it is not a prohibited substance.
Cocaine will usually stay in the system for 2-4 days so if they took it on the night after a match they *should* be clear by the time of the next match.
This is why Ben Barba was able to avoid a full drugs ban. He failed the test for cocaine “out of competition” so was not subject to the official drugs ban, rather a 12 game NRL ban for bringing the game into disrepute.
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| Do we know it's cocaine? I know, given how rife it is throughout sport and society as a whole, that's it's the most likely but we seem to be jumping the gun a bit here. Unless I've missed something, of course..
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| Quote ="Grimmy"That's a real shame, I like him as a player. The sport really seems to have a problem with this issue'"
It transcends merely the sport, it is a societal issue.
The UK is the cocaine capital of Europe. The rising trend of violent crime, particularly knife crime, ties in with the rise in use and availability of cocaine. Police budgets have been slashed, Westminster lacks the foresight to make the nuanced reform and change necessary to combat it. Our government believe greater powers to "stop and search" or to "put more police on the streets" will work when the issue stems from crypto-technology that makes it easy to advertise, negotiate and distribute high margin cocaine online. The battle is in the air and not on foot.
Anyway I digress. Yes, horrific timing and a shame as the lad has some ability. We can only await the outcome.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"Not my business Gareth, and after Tomkinsgate what would have been the point? Seriously losing interest in this sport now. We wonder why we can't get publicity and good tv deals, the lunatics are running the asylum, or should i say 'ruining' it. Wigan as a club should be at the forefront of promoting the game but i am afraid we have become the poster club for everything that is bad about the game. We are letting every other club down.'" it might not be your business but you should of let someone know about it,
I once passed on information to a friend as he was in a coaching role and didn't want him to be subjected to public criticism as he's a genuine good feller,
I hadn't proof but enough info for him to be monitored, the lad in this case had beat up his girlfriend one thing he couldn't hide and was using drugs, I later learned he lost his contract but this didn't go through the media.
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| The game as a whole needs to decide how it wants to deal with issues like drugs taking. Do we treat performance enhancing drugs as being different to social ones. When I was a young player some of the things done by senior payers under the influence of alcohol would make your hair stand on end but were conveinently ignored by fans and management. I am not in favour of the use of social drugs (other than alcohol but then I am a hypercrit) but I understand that they are very common today. If we genuinely wanted a drugs free sport we could impliment a whole range of processes to find users but we might find that we had few players left. I really think that we want to ask what we want and decide what is to be done before we try to change anything (as I am sure Mrs May will agree with).
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| He has a short memory
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| Well he would know all about letting people down. Self serving bell end.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Do we know it's cocaine? I know, given how rife it is throughout sport and society as a whole, that's it's the most likely but we seem to be jumping the gun a bit here. Unless I've missed something, of course..'"
This.
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| That whole rant by Brian Carney shows how little he knows about the current crop of Wigan players.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Well he would know all about letting people down. Self serving bell end.'" why because he choose to move on from wigan, being a bit selfish aren't you
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| Quote ="snowie"why because he choose to move on from wigan, being a bit selfish aren't you'"
No and no. Do some research pal.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"No and no. Do some research pal.'" from what I can remember he was a model player unless something trivial was swept under the carpet, do educate me as I don't follow Wigan
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| Quote ="snowie"from what I can remember he was a model player unless something trivial was swept under the carpet, do educate me as I don't follow Wigan'"
Basically, agreed to join Gold Coast when his Wigan contract ended, begged for and was granted early release from Wigan to join Newcastle Knights, did a season with them then bailed on Gold Coast without ever playing for them to go to Irish RU before returning to RL with Warrington, hence self serving bell end.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Basically, agreed to join Gold Coast when his Wigan contract ended, begged for and was granted early release from Wigan to join Newcastle Knights, did a season with them then bailed on Gold Coast without ever playing for them to go to Irish RU before returning to RL with Warrington, hence self serving bell end.'" so nothing sinister no drugs, no alcohol, as I thought just wanted to get away from Wigan to try the game in NRL and chose a different path
come on the way you was talking he'd done wigan over, he left early the rest is has nothing to do with his wigan contract while he was you and his reputation of being a model player, circumstances change and you can choose to change your mind, is it because he chose Wire than Wigan
what he has commented on is a complete disrespect to your club, using drugs, drink driving, drinking and causing a public nuisance, that's before you even mention your management
wonder how many of your fans have the same thought the he is a bellend?
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| Quote ="snowie"so nothing sinister no drugs, no alcohol, as I thought just wanted to get away from Wigan to try the game in NRL and chose a different path
come on the way you was talking he'd done wigan over, he left early the rest is has nothing to do with his wigan contract while he was you and his reputation of being a model player, circumstances change and you can choose to change your mind, is it because he chose Wire than Wigan
what he has commented on is a complete disrespect to your club, using drugs, drink driving, drinking and causing a public nuisance, that's before you even mention your management
wonder how many of your fans have the same thought the he is a bellend?'"
It was the can't be d performances he produced in order to get an early release that ed many fans off iirc
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| Quote ="snowie"so nothing sinister no drugs, no alcohol, as I thought just wanted to get away from Wigan to try the game in NRL and chose a different path
come on the way you was talking he'd done wigan over, he left early the rest is has nothing to do with his wigan contract while he was you and his reputation of being a model player, circumstances change and you can choose to change your mind, is it because he chose Wire than Wigan
what he has commented on is a complete disrespect to your club, using drugs, drink driving, drinking and causing a public nuisance, that's before you even mention your management
wonder how many of your fans have the same thought the he is a bellend?'"
There was another incident that I won't go into here but the police were involved. Far from a 'model' anything.
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| And post Wigan...
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