Nice to see that your recent lack of success has given you no humility..

Oh, look who it is. How nice.

That was not arrogance that is a fact.

Every player who had a niggling injury from the moment we got top 4 guaranteed was rested. In the run up to the play offs we got turned over by The Giants and Leeds. In the play offs they got blown away with ease. Though Leeds hung on even listening to their coach in the Review on Sky he felt they were never in the game. Maguire turned us from a SL side set up to a NRL one and it has shown.

Haha ok. You should work for Sky with some of the hyperbole on show here!

Nice so you go back to your old habit if unable to think of a reply throw insults.

I have not insulted anybody. Unless you can point out evidence to the contrary? Or maybe you don't know what hyperbole means? That would explain your confusion.

No not confused but some can take a flipant comment as insulting. But you do tend to do that if you have no more to add to the discussion.

I watched Amor most weeks for the last couple of years. You can get stats to mean anything. The Wigan Props play a hurtful game they damage and fatigue the opposition.

Amor is steady, he is a good fourth Prop in a top team. Very reliable but not damaging.

I would not have been disappointed for Wigan to sign him, I do not think he would make the team each week for us but I think he would be a good player to have in the squad.

Each to their own opinion I suppose but I'd take him over Dudson, Luaki or Crosby any day. I thought Flower was superb last season for you and Taylor also impressed.

I think a regular starting spot for us will allow Amor to show everyone his true colours. He is far better than "a fourth prop" and I think he'll show that this season.

Isn't that the point he would be 4th choice at best on last years form at Wigan. Starting next year on the players we have in place again he would not get in our 17 but I think he would be a good one to have as back up. I agree he is better than Lauaki, but our front row next season will probably be -

Taylor probably our best Prop
Pettybourne ropey year last season mainly due to injury in pre season ( remind you of anyone) showed good form again in the World Cup.
Flower cracking mobile workhorse.
Dudson/Crosby both young and only going to get better.

Crosby for me baring injury will be a shoe in for England Knights next year. I expect him to be our bolter. He is big aggressive and is only going to get better and better.

At very very worst, he would be 3rd behind Taylor and Flower so he'd definitely make your 17 mate.

You really really cannot help yourself can you? Do you have nothing better to do than be on this board talking complete nonsense? Doesn't Red Vee have some topics you can contribute to? There's a Wigan thread on there, go troll that

Or maybe you can carry on with how we only won the Grand Final because Warrington had so many injuries

That's a classic, but I think even Wire fans have stopped with that now...

I've actually been having a very reasonable conversation with one or two Wigan fans on here all day. It appears you're the only one with the problem.

Here you go...











Great stuff.

Just to be clear, we don't have any need to clutch at straws to knock Saints. Everyone accepts you are a genuine contender next season, but we just don't find your pack frightening because we've got a very strong pack ourselves, with some great young players who are likely to be even better next season (and a captain that we wouldn't swap for any other player in SL).

You say it doesn't have anything to do with our squad but it does. We may win nothing next season, who knows, but with the squad we have for 2014 we should fear no one. There's just no need for desperate straw clutching!

Good post. Amazing what you can do when you're mature about it.

So Giraffe, you watch the NRL. You are a Saints fan that somehow is an expert on Amor and you think Amor is a better player than Pettyborne?

I have to question how much of either player have you actually seen. Honestly?

I have never claimed to be an expert on Amor mate, nor an expert on the NRL. I watch every Super League game on SKY, plus the highlights shows and then a couple of NRL games a weekend plus the highlights show of that as well. I obviously see players whenever they play Saints too. I also watched all of the World Cup.

Based on what I have seen, I would take Amor over Pettybourne, that is just my opinion. Obviously I haven't watched Pettybourne much but I can only go off what I have seen.

I posted some stats on Amor in response to you saying he doesn't make good yards. I was simply pointing out that he made more on average than all of the Wigan props.

I don't claim to be an expert on Amor or the NRL, I just give my opinion as I see it. Not everyone will agree, and most on here can't stand it as it tends to differ from the majority on here. I'm fine with that, it's other people who choose to have a pop every time I come on here (I don't include you in that). It's sad really.

I know.

I know who was most impressive in the 2013 RLWC. www.rlwc2013.com/player/mose-masoe/251 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233

I know who was most impressive in the 2013 RLWC. www.rlwc2013.com/player/mose-masoe/251 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233

ahhh finally, a Giraffe free zone

Pettybournes stats compare very favourably with Chris Hill. www.rlwc2013.com/player/christopher-hill/323 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233 If that's his level of performance in 2014 he'll go well.

Pettybournes stats compare very favourably with Chris Hill. www.rlwc2013.com/player/christopher-hill/323 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233 If that's his level of performance in 2014 he'll go well.

No chance!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I know who was most impressive in the 2013 RLWC. www.rlwc2013.com/player/mose-masoe/251 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233'" Cheers for that. But we were comparing Amor and Pettybourne.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I know who was most impressive in the 2013 RLWC. www.rlwc2013.com/player/mose-masoe/251 www.rlwc2013.com/player/eddy-pettybourne/233'" Cheers for that. But we were comparing Amor and Pettybourne.

Rogues is happy to use any stats, as long as they don't belong to Kyle Amor

When you can show me Amors from the 2013 RLWC I'll gladly do a comparison.