Aren't quite a few of the Leeds players 2nd choice in their position (especially when you add Reed, Widdopp, Burgess, Ellis and Graham) just like last year? Care to name which ones you'd drop from the squad and for who? I bet you can't name 11 better English players in SL apart from those already in the squad.

No he wouldn't

Leeds Rhinos produced players
Ablett,Bailey,Burrow,Carvell,Jones-Bishop,JJB,McGuire,Morley,Sinfield,Watkins

Wigan Warriors produced players
Charnley,Hock,McIlorum,Mossop,O'Loughlin,Tomkins

=#FF0000None of which should be in the 17

=#4000FFWhich should be in the starting 13

And Watkins played his junior academy rugby at Salford.

Tomkins
Charnley/Briscoe (depending on form)
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop/Lomax (depending on form)
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Peacock (if he can still hack it, otherwise Mossop or Carvell)
Morley (likewise)
Wilkin/JJB/Another mobile second rower
Burrow

Would be my first choice. Plenty of pace in the backline, excellent kicking game and the usual standard of pack that we put out.

As has been mentioned, if we have a downfall it will be in the backline and the coaching, we have been churning out enough decent forwards for a long time. The promising thing is that our three quarters are now athletic as well as fairly big, as are our wingers.

I worry about the half backs however, we seem far too obsessed with 'runners' in England (as our reluctance to play ball players such as Tommy Martyn showed), we are crying out for an Adrian Lam type who will grab the game by the scruff of the neck and lead us around the pitch.

I was on about SL as a whole, nearly every club has got a few players that have come through the Wigan Academy, I dont think the same could be said for Leeds.

I think it probably could.

Off the top of my head: Morley, Carvell, Gibson, Broughton, Murrell, Netherton, Scruton, Walker, Diskin, Gale, Mathers, Fox.

There'll be others I've forgotten.

There are 22 players elsewhere in Super League who have come through the Wigan academy system. I reckon Leeds probably have more than that.

Hargreaves, Ainscough, Jones, Colbon, Melling, Gilmour, Brown, Robinson, O'Carroll, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Gleeson, Jewitt, Wild, Howarth, Veivers, Briscoe, Davies, Clarke, Kavanagh, Allen, Coyle and Marsh is on loan.

Questions marks over Hodgson and I might have missed out a couple.

So McBanana (a coach with no track record at club or country level) makes his squad selection and you offer that as proof that Leeds' academy system is better than our's?





A very poor attempt. Try harder next time.

Widnes 37 Wigan 36
I again expect Rogues and all you believists on pie dome to tell us how much better the Wigan academy players are than their counterparts at the Leeds Rhinos

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