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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"So is Clarke saying then, by definition, there is a possibility Mcguire got what he deserved?'"
As well as possibly not.
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"So is Clarke saying then, by definition, there is a possibility Mcguire got what he deserved?'"
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"As well as possibly not.'"
Sorry guys i can't go on running around in circles like this. I suppose we will all have to agree to disagree on this one. Enjoy the game saturday.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"So we agree he didn't say he deserved it then. Thank God for that. Could have saved you about 1,000 posts this week.'"
no we dont, he quite clearly inferred Mcguire deserved his injury.
i wonder why you brought up the relevence of the word perhaps, implying that its prefacing of the statement in some way removed any offence, then danced around actually saying it. It seems very strange.
so lets try a different tack as you are so strangely averse to to saying that
As you brought it up why do you think the word perhaps is relevent?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif
no we dont, he quite clearly inferred Mcguire deserved his injury.
i wonder why you brought up the relevence of the word perhaps, implying that its prefacing of the statement in some way removed any offence, then danced around actually saying it. It seems very strange.
so lets try a different tack as you are so strangely averse to to saying that
As you brought it up why do you think the word perhaps is relevent?'"
It's the important word the Leeds Hicksville Lynch Mob seem incapable of reading or understanding.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"It's the important word the Leeds Hicksville Lynch Mob seem incapable of reading or understanding.'"
and why is it important? what affect on statement and its potential for offence does it have?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and why is it important? what affect on statement and its potential for offence does it have?'"
And to prove my point........
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"And to prove my point........'"
nice try.
Considering your very strange aversion to explaining why you think perhaps was the integral part of the statement which is even wierder considering you brought it up, I can only surmise you are THAT naive to believe prefacing a sentence with an uncertain adverb removes the potential for offence, but strangley you darent admit that.
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| Quote ="Howard Beale"Coming from someone who thinks using the Holocaust to justify their self is ok (in a game of outright self-indulgent one up man ship) then i will take that as a compliment ,if it means not being has much of a low life as you . just because someone else used that statement in argument does not make it right for you to use , in fact it makes it a hole lot worse absolute hypocrisy at its lowest level and you're an expert .'" two or three people explained that to you, its quite funny it still went over your head
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif
nice try.
Considering your very strange aversion to explaining why you think perhaps was the integral part of the statement which is even wierder considering you brought it up, I can only surmise you are THAT naive to believe prefacing a sentence with an uncertain adverb removes the potential for offence, but strangley you darent admit that.'"
It's not my fault if people are too quick to knee-jerk and don't understand what "perhaps" means.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"It's not my fault if people are too quick to knee-jerk and don't understand what "perhaps" means.'"
And its not my fault if people for some reason believe prefacing a statement with an uncertain adverb makes any difference to its potential for offence. Even if they are strangely scared of admitting it
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| Maybe this whole thread is just becoming too boring for words - or perhaps it isn't!
All I can say/ask is why are you Loiners almost constantly on the Wigan board?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And its not my fault if people for some reason believe prefacing a statement with an uncertain adverb makes any difference to its potential for offence. Even if they are strangely scared of admitting it
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I'm not offended as I understand what perhaps means. "Perhaps" it might have helped if you understood what "perhaps" means - see what I did there.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I'm not offended as I understand what perhaps means. "Perhaps" it might have helped if you understood what "perhaps" means - see what I did there.'" I understand what perhaps means, i just think it is very naive to say that it makes a fundemental difference to the potential offence of a statement, ''perhaps' you do but as i say you have to be particularly naive to think so, however scared you are to admit it.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I understand what perhaps means, i just think it is very naive to say that it makes a fundemental difference to the potential offence of a statement, ''perhaps' you do but as i say you have to be particularly naive to think so, however scared you are to admit it.'"
If people don't have the capacity to understand certain simple words they'll always be offended by something.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"If people don't have the capacity to understand certain simple words they'll always be offended by something.'" And if people believe that prefacing a statement with perhaps removes the potential for offence then we can justify any statement, however offensive simply by starting the sentence with an uncertain adverb.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif And if people believe that prefacing a statement with perhaps removes the potential for offence then we can justify any statement, however offensive simply by starting the sentence with an uncertain adverb.'"
Perhaps if people didn't read what they want into things they might not be offended so easily.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"two or three people explained that to you, its quite funny it still went over your head
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Nobody explained anything to me and nothing went over my head , your obvious and churlish attempt at having a go at a poster who had made a previous mistake in what he posted (and AP was banned for if i remember correctly )was then used by yourself in an attempt to put yourself on some sort of pedestal of your own self importance .
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Perhaps if people didn't read what they want into things they might not be offended so easily.'"
that is 'perhaps' true, but it is definately completely different argument. It certainly doesnt explain why you have insisted that the word 'perhaps' was integral to the potential offence of Clarkes statement.
Are we supposed to take that as your acceptence that your insistence on the importance of the word 'perhaps' was nonsensical?
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"No and no.
Cant say I have given much thought to Leeds or Wigan's poor record of sportmanship this season.
Why would we be bricking it? We have nothing to fear from yourselves.
I believe you are wrong on both counts'"
YARKSHIRE, SSSHHHHHHHHHHH, YES U R.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"that is 'perhaps' true, but it is definately completely different argument. It certainly doesnt explain why you have insisted that the word 'perhaps' was integral to the potential offence of Clarkes statement.
Are we supposed to take that as your acceptence that your insistence on the importance of the word 'perhaps' was nonsensical?'"
Perhaps is obviously integral to the sentence otherwise he wouldn't have said it.
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| Quote ="Howard Beale"Nobody explained anything to me and nothing went over my head , '" yes they did, its still there, go and have a look.
Quote your obvious and churlish attempt at having a go at a poster who had made a previous mistake in what he posted (and AP was banned for if i remember correctly )was then used by yourself in an attempt to put yourself on some sort of pedestal of your own self importance .
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so in your attempt to show me as a hypocrite because i used someone else invoking of the Holocaust to highlight their hypocrisy (which apparently very much offended you) you are now defending their invoking of the Holocaust as simply a mistake. That is one very nice circle you have argued yourself into
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Perhaps is obviously integral to the sentence otherwise he wouldn't have said it.'"
But was it integral to the potential offence of his statement? Was the potential for offence removed because he prefaced it with an uncertain adverb?
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But was it integral to the potential offence of his statement? Was the potential for offence removed because he prefaced it with an uncertain adverb?'"
The potential for offence was removed for those who understood the word perhaps.
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