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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Yes, and everyone sticks to the rules laid down
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Yeah I remember when you cheated to avoid relegation as well.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah I remember when you cheated to avoid relegation as well.'"
Can you enlighten us all on your previous comments, and explain to me what winning challenge cups has to do with "the super league era"?
Speaking of level playing fields, remind us all how many Australians flew over for your lot for the 89 cup final? Or was you still a tadpole then and only remember after 1996???
Wonder if Darren Albert still has his bank account in Switzerland.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I am well aware of the history of rugby league. Hence why I know that rugby league only started only saw a level playing field and a fair system once super league began.'"
But it wasn't fair was it?
Up until 2008/2009 Superleague teams were limited on what they could spend dependant on turnover (50%), and then of course there were teams using offshore accounts, EBT's etc
To say that it wasn't a level playing field prior to 1996 is ridiculous, teams had the choice of what they wanted to spend, just like most other major sports.
People have a choice to spend up the max on their credit cards or keep in the black, it's their choice.
Since we the start of Superleague there has only been 4 winners of SL and 5 finalists.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah I remember when you cheated to avoid relegation as well.'"
Spirit of the cap I believe, a rule invented for us it seemed.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But it wasn't fair was it?
Up until 2008/2009 Superleague teams were limited on what they could spend dependant on turnover (50%), and then of course there were teams using offshore accounts, EBT's etc
To say that it wasn't a level playing field prior to 1996 is ridiculous, teams had the choice of what they wanted to spend, just like most other major sports.
People have a choice to spend up the max on their credit cards or keep in the black, it's their choice.
Since we the start of Superleague there has only been 4 winners of SL and 5 finalists.'"
Stop confusing him Brian.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I am well aware of the history of rugby league. Hence why I know that rugby league only started only saw a level playing field and a fair system once super league began.'"
A fair level playing field. Of course, thats why theres only Wigan, Saints, Bradford and Leeds that have EVER won Super League since 1996, because its such a level playing field. I might put £20 on Wakefield to win it next year.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"
But this isn't about Saints. This is about counting the hubcap as part of the treble which is ridiculous.'"
So what is the treble then? Seeing as the world club challenge is played in the off season, and players can play in it that weren't part of the grand final winning team, as in new signings. So, if the Cup, Grand final and League leaders is NOT the treble, then what is? Explain.......
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah I remember when you cheated to avoid relegation as well.'"
Didn't you 'cheat' that year also? Coincidentally the last time you won a super league grand final... How odd.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Didn't you 'cheat' that year also? Coincidentally the last time you won a super league grand final... How odd.'"
Never happened that. Apparently. Neither did the betting scandal.
The big question is though, did it happen in the "SL ERA" because if it was before, its been erased from history.
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| And if YG wants to talk about buying titles have a look at the Saints 1999 Grand Final team.
Fifteen of the seventeen were bought.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"It's true. The fact that Wigan have fallen behind Leeds, Saints and Bradford in the silverware stakes must be difficult for you to take. I understand that.'"
Im pretty sure weve not done too bad in the last few seasons, League leaders, Challenge Cup winners, Grand final winners and constantly showing up our nearest beloved neighbours. I might start up a new theory, if it didnt happen after 2010 then it never happened.
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| Quote ="21-12"Im pretty sure weve not done too bad in the last few seasons, League leaders, Challenge Cup winners, Grand final winners and constantly showing up our nearest beloved neighbours. I might start up a new theory, if it didnt happen after 2010 then it never happened.'"
Yes, that was AFTER all teams were allowed to spend the same, and the accountants clever dodges were fixed.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes, that was AFTER all teams were allowed to spend the same, and the accountants clever dodges were fixed.'"
That must have something to do with why Saints are bringing through all these amazingly talented youngsters like Gary Wheeler.
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| Quote ="21-12"That must have something to do with why Saints are bringing through all these amazingly talented youngsters like Gary Wheeler.'"
And Josh Perry
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"And yet we have won far more super leagues and challenge cups and hubcaps and world club challenges in super league history than you have.
But this isn't about Saints. This is about counting the hubcap as part of the treble which is ridiculous.'"
And we get accused of living in the past... Welcome to today!!!
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"And we get accused of living in the past... Welcome to today!!!
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How times have changed eh?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I am well aware of the history of rugby league. Hence why I know that rugby league only started only saw a level playing field and a fair system once super league began.'"
What absolute horse
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But it wasn't fair was it?
Up until 2008/2009 Superleague teams were limited on what they could spend dependant on turnover (50%), and then of course there were teams using offshore accounts, EBT's etc
To say that it wasn't a level playing field prior to 1996 is ridiculous, teams had the choice of what they wanted to spend, just like most other major sports.
People have a choice to spend up the max on their credit cards or keep in the black, it's their choice.
Since we the start of Superleague there has only been 4 winners of SL and 5 finalists.'"
*6 finalists
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| Quote ="Grimmy"*6 finalists'"
How could I forget Wire?
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| Anyone reckon O'Loughlin will actually feature on Monday despite what is said before the game. With him just getting back I'm sure Wane will want him to get some fitness together and leaving 3 key players out against Saints isn't wise to me
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I am well aware of the history of rugby league. Hence why I know that rugby league only started only saw a level playing field and a fair system once super league began.'"
Really? So between 1895 and 1996 there wasn't a level playing field? And if there was a bias to Wigan in this time how do you explain 1980?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"And yet we have won far more super leagues and challenge cups and hubcaps and world club challenges in super league history than you have.
But this isn't about Saints. This is about counting the hubcap as part of the treble which is ridiculous.'"
Last time I looked we had won 19 leagues, 18 cups and 3 world club challenges. If someone has won more then please let me know who.
Did Saints only win the double in 2006? I could have swore they said they'd won the treble.
Of course the LLS is worthless but there are 3 trophies up for grabs and Wigan as a club want to win all 3.
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| Quote ="goobervision"Really? So between 1895 and 1996 there wasn't a level playing field? And if there was a bias to Wigan in this time how do you explain 1980?'"
And the large period of time in which we won nothing.
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