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| Quote ="SLIMply stalking!"really?
the merchandising for the andrew johns deal made more money than you could ever possibly imagine'"
really?
what if Cruncher imagined Wembley Stadium filled from floor to roof with stacks of 500 euro notes? Would the merchandising for the Andrew Johns deal have made more money than that?
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| Quote ="Deano G"really?
what if Cruncher imagined [uWembley Stadium[/u filled from floor to roof with stacks of 500 euro notes? Would the merchandising for the Andrew Johns deal have made more money than that?
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Tee hee. I see what you did.
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| Quote ="Deano G"really?
what if Cruncher imagined Wembley Stadium filled from floor to roof with stacks of 500 euro notes? Would the merchandising for the Andrew Johns deal have made more money than that?
'" what you fail to understand mr pedant is that cruncher along with most wiganers only views money in the context of how many pies he can purchase or how far over the cap your club can go before you are found out by the RFL! so to answer your question his imagination would not have the capacity to even come close to the money involved in the andrew johns deal. hth
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Tee hee. I see what you did.'"
It was just the first thing that popped into my head.....
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| Quote ="SLIMply stalking!"what you fail to understand mr pedant is that cruncher along with most wiganers only views money in the context of how many pies he can purchase or how far over the cap your club can go before you are found out by the RFL! so to answer your question his imagination would not have the capacity to even come close to the money involved in the andrew johns deal. hth'"
Oh dear. Sense of humour failure. Bit tense are we? Worried Wire will lose on Sunday and then implode in the play-offs... again... are we?
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| Of course the signing is for playing reasons. He is a good winger who will bolster the squad at a key point in the season.
Wigan don't need to sign someone for recognition or publicity. The way some people are talking, he's the world's most famous rugby union player whose presence will put the name of an otherwise unknown small club on the map
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The way some people are talking, he's the world's most famous rugby union player whose presence will put the name of an otherwise unknown small club on the map
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He's signing for Warrington?
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| Is it a bad thing? if we cant sign a decent replacement this year, he can fit in and give some young ones a chance and we can have some experience in big games if the young ones are not upto it...alot of people was like "Maguire who?", in IL we trust. IL deserves a birthday round wigan town centre for what hes done!! Leg-end!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"As things are - and bear in mind we haven't had any kind of official announcement or explanation from Wigan yet, so none of us can really judge - I feel there has to be more to this than meets the eye.'"
Let's hope so!
I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
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| Quote ="cadoo"He's signing for Warrington?'"
He's signing from that club you used to support to the club you started glory supporting, bet you're chuffed with this.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"He's signing from that club you used to support to the club you started glory supporting, bet you're chuffed with this.'"
Give us a clue?
In English this time.
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| Quote ="SLIMply stalking!"what you fail to understand mr pedant is that cruncher along with most wiganers only views money in the context of how many pies he can purchase or how far over the cap your club can go before you are found out by the RFL! so to answer your question his imagination would not have the capacity to even come close to the money involved in the andrew johns deal. hth'"
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| could you imagine if warrington had made this signing
39 year old homesexual rugby union failure..... from wales.
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| Quote ="WQrriors"Is it a bad thing? if we cant sign a decent replacement this year, he can fit in and give some young ones a chance and we can have some experience in big games if the young ones are not upto it...alot of people was like "Maguire who?", in IL we trust.
IL deserves a birthday round wigan town centre for what hes done!! Leg-end!'"
Why get me involved?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"He's signing from that club you used to support to the club you started glory supporting, bet you're chuffed with this.'"
Touchy!
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| Good publicity stunt. If he takes up £1 of CC room then it is laughable.
The guy is 37, soon to be 38 and he is NOT Stanley Gene......(who played on until he was 56 as we all know.... )
To even suggest that he could offer anything on the playing field is laughable.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"could you imagine if warrington had made this signing
39 year old homesexual rugby union failure..... from wales.'"
I don't think any Wigan fan would be making any irrelevant reference to his sexuality The only possible reason anyone with any decency would mention his sexuality is to note how sensitively Thomas talks about the issues around coming out, the difficulties he has had in coming to terms with his sexuality and the positive step that it was to be true to himself and to live openly as a gay man. It takes real courage to do that. Thomas is a very impressive speaker and I think someone who could do a lot for the game in helping people within RL and the wider community with these issues.
But since we're on the subject of sexuality, I have to ask: is "homesexuality" what might also be known as "keep it in the family"? I gather it's quite popular in Warrington.... cue the banjos... it's Deliverance time....
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"could you imagine if warrington had made this signing
39 year old homesexual rugby union failure..... from wales.'"
Well it would hardly affect your ave age....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Well it would hardly affect your ave age....'"
Probably reduce it
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| Quote ="jonh"
My stance is this.
1.Those who think it will attract no publicity are deluded the man is a legend in Wales and that alone has the potential to open up a whole new fan base for us, especially now there is no top flight team in Wales.'"
Please explain how any interest in Wales in Thomas signing for Wigan will translate into a new fan base. Unless our coach in 2012 is bonkers he will never make a 1st team game so why is that going to attract then to our club?
Even if they decide Wigan is their pet "RL" side after they have finished watching the Osprey's or whoever do you seriously think they are going to spend one penny actively supporting Wigan? Armchair fans at best but you know what? They probably already are armchair fans of the game. We might get a coach load if he is ever picked for a game and enough notice is given.
Quote 2.Gareth Thomas will get more column inches than any other rugby player in the world in the next year or so. The film will only enhance his reputation and bring him to new audiences. Again great potential to piggy back this.
3.Sam Tomkins recently stated if he moved to union much of it would be fuelled by the recognition the union guys get any extra media attention Thomas and his club get can only boost the star attractions profile.'"
Point 2, his media value is far less than it was than when playing RU for Wales and as he gets older and plays less (well not at all next year hopefully if he does sign for us) it will decrease further.
If in 3 you mean Thomas moving to Wigan is going to raise the profile of the game in any way that will make it less attractive for the likes of Tomkins to go to RU or for high profile quality RU players to come to RL I think you are deluded. If you don't mean that I don't know what you are on about.
Quote 4.IFL recently stated foreign targets were increasingly difficult to attract due to the money now involved in the NRL. He also stated that we would be looking to Union for targets. Thomas' signing by Wigan means again that due to his reputation in Union we may prove a more attractive draw in the future.'"
Not it doesn't. Leagues draw is limited by it's lack of a perceived International game, lower wages than RU and a lower media profile none of which us signing a 37 year former great RU player player for a year are going to influence in any way because the operative word is "former".
Quote 5.George Carmont is as we know getting on a bit in terms of his professional career. We also have a converted second row in the other centre birth. Resting George against the lesser lights and giving Thomas game time against certain clubs would not do us any harm, we are clearly short of a quality centre coming through the ranks and we are unaware of the future of some of our fringe first teamers such as Marsh and Goulding, neither look like breaking into the first team in the foreseeable future (in my opinion if ever) and may be allowed to move on for the good of their careers.
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Here we go again. Diminish our own players abilities to justify the Thomas signing. That converted 2nd rower just scored one of the most memorable Wembley tries ever and converted 2nd row he may be, even mentioning that in a post justifying Thomas signing is ridiculous. He is so far ahead of Thomas it is completely disingenuous to even bring it up.
Likewise trying to justify signing a 37 year old for Carmont because Carmont is getting on is daft. It'll be like Dad's army.
It always never ceases to amaze me how quick some people are to pick faults in players to justify actions of the club. No I know you have never been a great fan of Goulding but be honest, if I had come on here two months ago and suggested we sign Thomas you would have never stopped laughing.
Quote 6.It appears that he may cost us very very little in terms of cap if anything according to some of the rumours.'"
I'll pay the club £100 a game to play. The fact he may be free doesn't make him good enough.
Quote 7.He is a pretty good player. Not a world beater but certainly on a par with any of our current back up backs in my opinion.'"
He is not a "pretty good playe"r. If he were he'd have stood out in the Crusaders side and doesn't, he just looks average to anonymous. Given that is the truth of it and he is 37 soon to be 38 there is no playing justification for signing him at all. (I happen to think the PR reasons are vastly over stated as well).
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| Quote ="Deano G"Oh dear. Sense of humour failure. Bit tense are we? Worried Wire will lose on Sunday and then implode in the play-offs... again... are we?
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a very poor retort! i'm not worried about anything,what happens will happen. i will only have a minor vocal part to play in the outcome! your confidence is admirable.........so laugh away!
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| Quote ="DaveO"Please explain how any interest in Wales in Thomas signing for Wigan will translate into a new fan base. Unless our coach in 2012 is bonkers he will never make a 1st team game so why is that going to attract then to our club?'"
So what your problem... he is probably not going to play, and will make little difference to the team which is picked to play. I would be unhappy if this was to be our only signing but its not likely to be. If it should turn out to be so, then i think you would be right to be unhappy. As i see it its going to be more for the professional attitude he will bring to training, and work with developing young players. I really think people ought to stop getting so upset about this...
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| Quote ="SLIMply stalking!"a very poor retort! i'm not worried about anything,what happens will happen. i will only have a minor vocal part to play in the outcome! your confidence is admirable.........so laugh away!'"
Wire will blow up again... Bet back in your hole...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Wire will blow up again... Bet back in your hole...'"
if i want to place a bet why would i go to a hole? in warrington we use bookies!
and as for blowing up, we'll see, we'll see. as stated to the previous poster i admire your confidence!
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| Quote ="SLIMply stalking!"if i want to place a bet why would i go to a hole? in warrington we use bookies!
and as for blowing up, we'll see, we'll see. as stated to the previous poster i admire your confidence!'"
We will see..... again.
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