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| Quote ="pie.warrior"you dont have to scrap the pay on the door system, just need some form of record that you actually attended an away game. All fans apply for and receive an away season card that has a chip then a simple card reader at all grounds that is swiped when you pay to enter at the turnstiles. the info after each game is sent to the away club telling them who attended the game.'" Couldn't you just give it a mate if your not going?
Every idea can be exploited
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Scrap the pay on the door option and lose many fans who do so given the fact they can decide to travel on the morning of the game.
Many a week I can't decide until game day due to work commitments.
Crackers idea'"
Ok then, dont scrap it, but the people who dont buy a ticket prior to the game dont get an loyalty points recorded for that particular game.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Scrap the pay on the door option and lose many fans who do so given the fact they can decide to travel on the morning of the game.
Many a week I can't decide until game day due to work commitments.
Crackers idea'"
What if, in an ideal world, the sport grew massively in the next few years and you couldn'y pay on the door due to demand, you'd be a bit screwed then wouldn't you?
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| Quote ="21-12"Ok then, dont scrap it, but the people who dont buy a ticket prior to the game dont get an loyalty points recorded for that particular game.'" Not fair though is it?
The card idea would cost too much just to give fans a chance to get tickets first i cant see anyone going for that
Stubs can be exploited
You cant do anything without it costing loads of cash or being unfair
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| Quote ="21-12"Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Scrap the pay on the door option and lose many fans who do so given the fact they can decide to travel on the morning of the game.
Many a week I can't decide until game day due to work commitments.
Crackers idea'"
Ok then, dont scrap it, but the people who dont buy a ticket prior to the game dont get an loyalty points recorded for that particular game.'"
So I'm penalised for racing up the motorway at the final hour to get to the game after getting away from work early all to watch Wigan?
Ok...
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| Quote ="21-12"Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Scrap the pay on the door option and lose many fans who do so given the fact they can decide to travel on the morning of the game.
Many a week I can't decide until game day due to work commitments.
Crackers idea'"
What if, in an ideal world, the sport grew massively in the next few years and you couldn'y pay on the door due to demand, you'd be a bit screwed then wouldn't you?'"
I would.
But it isn't going to happen so...
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| Season ticket holders get priority as it is which is correct. Ive never failed to get a ticket for any game ive wanted to attend. Theres been ample opportunity for anybody who wants a ticket for Saints away to get one by now through either club. Anybody who is a season ticket holder and claims they couldnt get a ticket is just making a poor excuse imo.
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| DOESNT COST LOADS OF MONEY... i use card readers at work that download HGV driver cards which are very detailed in the info stored on them as they are recordable. It takes about 2 seconds to download on device which is portable and costs approx £300-£400 for the device.....this is then plugged into pc and files can be sent anywhere. A fan card would be even simpler as it it would have on it is your name , club and a member number......
As regards "your mate" using your card at an away game that's no problem as only 1 of you would be getting the loyalty reward needed for future purchases of limited tickets at big games
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"DOESNT COST LOADS OF MONEY... i use card readers at work that download HGV driver cards which are very detailed in the info stored on them as they are recordable. It takes about 2 seconds to download on device which is portable and costs approx £300-£400 for the device.....this is then plugged into pc and files can be sent anywhere. A fan card would be even simpler as it it would have on it is your name , club and a member number......
As regards "your mate" using your card at an away game that's no problem as only 1 of you would be getting the loyalty reward needed for future purchases of limited tickets at big games'" £5600 for the card readers in every ground plus CC games you going to put one in every ground of pro rugby?
Say the cards cost £1 each your looking around £180,000 there now the rfl say that the Stobart deal is worth around 3-4 mill that a big chunk of cash out of the pot to reward fans cant see them doing it
Your point about only 1 person gets the loyalty reward wouldn't keeping stubs be cheaper and more simple?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Season ticket holders get priority as it is which is correct. Ive never failed to get a ticket for any game ive wanted to attend. Theres been ample opportunity for anybody who wants a ticket for Saints away to get one by now through either club. Anybody who is a season ticket holder and claims they couldnt get a ticket is just making a poor excuse imo.'" Think that point is unfair what about people who aint got the cash atm?
If it's a choice between feeding your kids or a ticket what are you going to choose?
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| Quote ="king warrior"Think that point is unfair what about people who aint got the cash atm?
If it's a choice between feeding your kids or a ticket what are you going to choose?'"
Well if you havent got the cash that means you cant afford to go. Everybody know roughly when the tickets will be on sale. It cant of been too long after pay day for a large percentage of fans when the tickets want on sale anyway.
What shall the club do? Hold back the tickets and check if everybody has got some money before they put them on sale?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Well if you havent got the cash that means you cant afford to go. Everybody know roughly when the tickets will be on sale. It cant of been too long after pay day for a large percentage of fans when the tickets want on sale anyway.
What shall the club do? Hold back the tickets and check if everybody has got some money before they put them on sale?
'" I dont know whyyou find it funny we are talking about loyalty here if a fan who has been to every game over the last 5 years only gets paid next week loses out on a ticket to one of the biggest games of the season
Regards to holding tickets back why not you get a deadline miss it it gets sold i'm sure it will sell a min after the deadline is up
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"So I'm penalised for racing up the motorway at the final hour to get to the game after getting away from work early all to watch Wigan?
Ok...'"
Thats how it works in football mate, tough luck.
For example, I managed to get a Carling Cup final ticket but I was in the last sale even though I had been to Stoke away, City away, City at home, I hadn't recorded it on my membership, I had used my mates membership.
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| Quote ="king warrior"£5600 for the card readers in every ground plus CC games you going to put one in every ground of pro rugby?
Say the cards cost £1 each your looking around £180,000 there now the rfl say that the Stobart deal is worth around 3-4 mill that a big chunk of cash out of the pot to reward fans cant see them doing it
Your point about only 1 person gets the loyalty reward wouldn't keeping stubs be cheaper and more simple?'"
The card readers wont cost anything as they are already in place for the Latics.
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| Quote ="king warrior"I dont know whyyou find it funny we are talking about loyalty here if a fan who has been to every game over the last 5 years only gets paid next week loses out on a ticket to one of the biggest games of the season
Regards to holding tickets back why not you get a deadline miss it it gets sold i'm sure it will sell a min after the deadline is up'"
Well if they have been to every game over the last 5 years im sure they have got the jist of when tickets go on sale and budgeting for them etc. Its not rocket science.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Well if they have been to every game over the last 5 years im sure they have got the jist of when tickets go on sale and budgeting for them etc. Its not rocket science.'" If only life was that easy
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| Quote ="21-12"Thats how it works in football mate, tough luck.
For example, I managed to get a Carling Cup final ticket but I was in the last sale even though I had been to Stoke away, City away, City at home, I hadn't recorded it on my membership, I had used my mates membership.'"
This isn't pansieball. This is RL.
Accept that we're a minority sports and at THIS MOMENT IN TIME we don't have big enough demand to completely up haul how we distribute tickets for no more than 3 big games a year (Good Friday, Wembley & OT - no other game needs it. Not even Wire away or even that Semi-final you all got hairy about and embarrassingly we didn't sell out)
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| Quote ="king warrior"Think that point is unfair what about people who aint got the cash atm?
If it's a choice between feeding your kids or a ticket what are you going to choose?'"
but if this said fan had loyalties based on the number of games they'd been to, would they get a free ticket this week for Saints? If not, how would they pay for it regardless of loyalties?
blooming heck. These particular tickets have been released the week after pay day anyway...
even if not, i've spent the past 3-4 week with £20 stashed away. i knew they where due, so i kept money aside.
if i couldn't afford it and had to 'feed my kids' then i'd be doing the right thing and not going to RL over my kids...
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"This isn't pansieball. This is RL.
Accept that we're a minority sports and at THIS MOMENT IN TIME we don't have big enough demand to completely up haul how we distribute tickets for no more than 3 big games a year (Good Friday, Wembley & OT - no other game needs it. Not even Wire away or even that Semi-final you all got hairy about and embarrassingly we didn't sell out)'"
So, your theory is that Good Friday and Finals should just be a first come first served at the TO regardless of how many games you have attended. Great.
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| Quote ="21-12"Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"This isn't pansieball. This is RL.
Accept that we're a minority sports and at THIS MOMENT IN TIME we don't have big enough demand to completely up haul how we distribute tickets for no more than 3 big games a year (Good Friday, Wembley & OT - no other game needs it. Not even Wire away or even that Semi-final you all got hairy about and embarrassingly we didn't sell out)'"
So, your theory is that Good Friday and Finals should just be a first come first served at the TO regardless of how many games you have attended. Great.'"
Whilst we are a club with 10.5k StHolders and receiving allocations of above that, Yes.
Yes I do.
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| Non ST holders can buy tickets from Stains which I dont agree with either.
For big games with reduced capacities, Leeds, Wire, Stains, Hull KR even, the away end (dont give me that crap that there isnt one) should be given solely to the away team until they cant sell any more. Im on the cpu as going to Cas and Widnes and have a stub from Bradford. Job done.
Some people cant get to the DW (pie warrior) and have to rely on the web working or phone not being busy. If he had 2 days knowing he was guaranteed one then he wouldnt need to panic.
You might even find attendances rise if people knew they had to attend the little games so to speak or they risk missing the big ones.
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| To add to my point slightly, I get that for most games it doesnt matter but for the odd one or two that it does, loyalty should imo be rewarded.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Whilst we are a club with 10.5k StHolders and receiving allocations of above that, Yes.
Yes I do.'"
Hang on, what exactly would you do about the Good Friday sales then? You dont think there should be loyalty rewarded for that game with only 3k tickets allocated to us?? You also think that a Cup final, we should have General sale from day one? That means any tom dick and harry can get better seats than people that haven't missed all year? What would you do if say, we got 2.5k for Warrington away????? General sale??
As for the "pansiball" comment, dont you go watching Bolton? Bit hypocrital that if you ask me.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"icon_lol.gif
but if this said fan had loyalties based on the number of games they'd been to, would they get a free ticket this week for Saints? If not, how would they pay for it regardless of loyalties?
blooming heck. These particular tickets have been released the week after pay day anyway...
even if not, i've spent the past 3-4 week with £20 stashed away. i knew they where due, so i kept money aside.
if i couldn't afford it and had to 'feed my kids' then i'd be doing the right thing and not going to RL over my kids...'" Feeding kids was one example what if something blew in the house or something?
It's ok if you live with your parents but things happen in life what you dont expect from time to time
Who said anything about a free ticket if you read the thread proper i said put to one side and given a deadline the ticket would sell if not picked up before hand
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| Quote ="king warrior"Feeding kids was one example what if something blew in the house or something?
It's ok if you live with your parents but things happen in life what you dont expect from time to time
Who said anything about a free ticket if you read the thread proper i said put to one side and given a deadline the ticket would sell if not picked up before hand'"
In a way the same could be said th contradict your argument, what if something blew in the house which means you can't get to a game which means you don't qualify for a loyalty ticket in the future?
It's an idea that's never going to work in rugby league in my opinion, firstly because we don't have enough high demand games for it to even be worth it, secondly because the big guys at the top who would have to pay for it don't really care whether it's a loyal fan of 60 years or a first time goer as long as they are getting bums on seats, and lastly because it would cause more negativity than good with people complaining about it - just take a look at this thread as an example. It's always going to upset a few people / be unfair to a few people.
For what it's worth I have been a season ticket holder for as long as I can remember and go to the majority of games barring Catalan away because it's not financially viabLe to me every year so a loyalty scheme would benefit me massively, but it's never going to work.
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