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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"The fight should have never happened. Thenrefnshould have blown up penalising
And for the Wigan fans making it about Wigan claiming 'we're hard done by' and somehow making the thread about how Wigan are unfairly treated need to grow up and stop crying.
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Forgive me for sticking up for my team and wanting a level playing field. Perhaps in the world cup this year we can re-employ the ref who let Jonathan Thurstan forearm smash Ryan Hall in the face preventing him from scoring a match winning try without as little as a sin binning.
I think the point is, I pay £20+ to watch a ref spoil a match for me at Wigan, and if I watch the same offence on the telly they award a different decision. I have bad memories of Wigan being robbed and GB (Morley off after 7seconds?) sick of being ripped off and robbed. We all know who the dirty players are and they get special treatment on and off the pitch.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Was Webb's first bin for a flop after a team warning?'"
Webbs first yellow was for pushing Riley when he went to play the ball.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"This is simple, if a WIGAN PLAYER DID WHAT YOUR PLAYER DID TONIGHT HE WOULD HAVE GOT A THREE MATCH BAN. Surely a muppet like you can understand that?'"
"Mum, Mash Butty just called me a muppet". P.S you left your caps lock on as well. Did Jon Clarke get an extra ban last week for fighting with Saints players in that brawl? Stop thinking the world is against you . Pity your games not on TV today as you could have watched that one too.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I thought Warrington were lucky to get the penalty from the Elima incident with Evans. I didn't think he made contact with the head and obviously Westwood could have been cited for the reaction, but Catalans really are their worst enemies at times.'"
Elima did make contact with Evans. It was right in front of me and even closer in front of the linesman. Poor from both sides and the officials.
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| Everyone moaning about it already, spare us all and wait till wether they get cited or not. If they don't, fine cry all you like but your basing your arguments now on 'probablys' and 'conspiracy theories'. At least wait till Monday to see if their charged
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"This is simple, if a WIGAN PLAYER DID WHAT YOUR PLAYER DID TONIGHT HE WOULD HAVE GOT A THREE MATCH BAN. Surely a muppet like you can understand that?'"
Its half term in Pie-Land. Done all your homework..... now for the rugby forums !
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| Quote ="Conroy"I thought the yellow was fair. Ended his game and with the incident on report he could still cop a ban. Had he sent him off it could have made the last 10 minutes even worse. Probably the only good bit of reffing in the whole match.'"
Yellow and red were the same outcome there. Do you really think the Warrington players would have escalated thing because Westwood got a different colour of card? I'm not convinced.
As a matter of principle, I'm still struggling to think of something that could be any more clear cut as a red than chasing a retreating player for a couple of plays and starting a fight (moments after being warned for starting another); especially when you consider that pure sloppy play can result in reds.
Not really bothered about the wigan conspiracies - I completely agree that McIlorum should've been sent off last year, it was a plain stupid overreaction to him thinking Elima had elbowed him (iirc)
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Its half term in Pie-Land. Done all your homework..... now for the rugby forums !
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Nice to know they taught you about half terms in borstal. Tell me do you have to run home after a match because your tag alarm will go off after 10?
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Its half term in Pie-Land. Done all your homework..... now for the rugby forums !
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Not bad, but did Dad help with the harder words?
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| Quote ="i hate pies"Everyone moaning about it already, spare us all and wait till wether they get cited or not. If they don't, fine cry all you like but your basing your arguments now on 'probablys' and 'conspiracy theories'. At least wait till Monday to see if their charged'"
Fair enough. As this is a forum, you do sometimes get conjecture before the event, though. I recall similar threads before McGuire was rightly banned, and wondered whether the conjecture, inc by our coach, concentrated the minds of the disciplinary committee.
Consistency from the disciplinary committee is an important point, especially if we have, say 3 teams with very little between them. Who knows how we would have gone on with Micky in the Leeds game we lost by a point?
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| The thing I find more puzzling in all of this is that Wire got the penalty.
The linesman states that in his opinion that Webb threw the first punch, but ignores any of the prior events. So it's OK for Westwood to follow Webb well beyond where he should have been, argue, push to the face (it's an attack to the head, and Elima got penalised just mins later for pushing in a tackle). But for Webb to have reacted to this is a penalty against him?
Silverwood lost control of that game and didn't help with stupid refereeing.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Yellow and red were the same outcome there. Do you really think the Warrington players would have escalated thing because Westwood got a different colour of card? I'm not convinced.
As a matter of principle, I'm still struggling to think of something that could be any more clear cut as a red than chasing a retreating player for a couple of plays and starting a fight (moments after being warned for starting another); especially when you consider that pure sloppy play can result in reds.
Not really bothered about the wigan conspiracies - I completely agree that McIlorum should've been sent off last year, it was a plain stupid overreaction to him thinking Elima had elbowed him (iirc)'"
If he was giving the penalty to Wire then it could definitely have caused some issues with both sets of players who were already pumped up.
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| The next person on half-term to make a childish, name-calling comment will be taking a break.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"This is simple, if a WIGAN PLAYER DID WHAT YOUR PLAYER DID TONIGHT HE WOULD HAVE GOT A THREE MATCH BAN. Surely a muppet like you can understand that?'"
You tell em !
That Ben Westwoods a NASTY MAN... And if he would have done that playing for Wigan, they would have given him TEN GAMES.
It's a conspiracy against your club, of that there can be no doubt.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"You tell em !
That Ben Westwoods a NASTY MAN... And if he would have done that playing for Wigan, they would have given him TEN GAMES.
It's a conspiracy against your club, of that there can be no doubt.'"
You are Mr Chuckles, of that there can be no doubt.
I would be astonished if there were a conspiracy, but the issue at hand - why have so many Wigan players been banned and sent off and the relative consistency - is worth commenting on. Hard though that may be for you to grasp. Do your best though.
If it is a valid argument that Benny is a great lad - and bear in mind the Wigan club and the Wigan fans have supported him substantially this year - and Webb is really unpleasant, and so chasing after him and decking him is fine, then it's worth knowing that.
Even you must appreciate the interest in consistency in this area?
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| He won't get banned. Nor should he. Sin Binning was sufficient in my opinion. We may hear more about Leon Pryce's 'Harley Race-esque' knee to the face though.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Quote ="Warrington Wolf"To be sung with the voice of a 6 year old boy "nobody likes us, I'll think I'll go and eat worms". What are you on about? Why should Westwood get banned? Silverwood could and should have taken positive action earlier and the naughty play would have stopped. Pryce was naughty even though Myler played it a little. Nice game of biff. Hopefully yours will be the same tomorrow.'"
This is simple, if a WIGAN PLAYER DID WHAT YOUR PLAYER DID TONIGHT HE WOULD HAVE GOT A THREE MATCH BAN. Surely a muppet like you can understand that?'"
Deary me today. Seriously?
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| I blame it on the skunk!
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5 times more pages about another teams player than yesterdays' game .Twice as many blaming the oficals. How tipycal. Lunt showed Macalorum who is the best hooker in SL>
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5 times more pages about another teams player than yesterdays' game .Twice as many blaming the oficals. How tipycal. Lunt showed Macalorum who is the best hooker in SL>'"
How did Lunt show McIlorum that Roby is the best hooker in SL?
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| Part of me want's to stick up for Westwood. He's a great player and you could argue that Brent Webb had it coming to him having spent most of his time on the pitch roughing it up so to speak. However, When a player follows someone 15 metres forward from where the ball is being played to instigate a fight you have to question whether a sin bin is sufficient? Mcllorrum got a red card last season for striking Elima (and rightly so imo, it was idiotic and I'm not for one minute defending it). Yet , following someone down the pitch and striking a player is seen as less serious and only given a Yellow? When you look at some of the ban's and cards that where dished out last season, like the magic game for instance, it's no wonder decisions come under such scrutiny. Consistency is all people want to see.
Catalan's are their own worst enemy at times, but when you have Silverwood in the middle being so inconsistent and letting so much lying on and messing around at the ptb go unpunished I expected the match to turn sour.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"How did Lunt show McIlorum that Roby is the best hooker in SL?'"
Or indeed Michael Monaghan?
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| Maybe they cinema projected it on his teeth?
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| Quote ="Conroy":lol
Well that makes Macalorum about sixth best British hooker then after Burrows ,Clark and the lad from Hull.
Your not discussing the game still I see.
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| I've discussed the game on several threads as have others. I think there are 3 on here at least.
Don't be changing the subject now that your shockingly biased post that Shaun Lunt is the best hooker in SL has been shot down.
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