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| Quote ="cadoo"I wonder how we are fitting him in though?
Mathers to Wire. Goulding on loan surely wont be enough?'"
im pretty sure Phelps wont be at the club much longer.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I wonder how we are fitting him in though?
Mathers to Wire. Goulding on loan surely wont be enough?'"
Just said to a pal of mine, is it really worth losing possibly 3 fringe players to accommodate 1 player? What happens if we get a couple of injuries in the backs?
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| Quote ="Pemps"Just said to a pal of mine, is it really worth losing possibly 3 fringe players to accommodate 1 player? What happens if we get a couple of injuries in the backs?'"
This is the only concern I have; for once we have some depth, granted it's a little weak but competition for places keeps people on their toes.
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| The cover we have is not up to much though is it, even the players they are covering for that matter if we lose Mathers, Phelps and Goulding the only one that would be a loss would be Goulding, he may yet make it but needs time. Full back we have Richards and Roberts to cover both better than Mathers Goulding is replaced by Gleeson and effectivly we have both pryce and Baily to cover as well instead of Phelps .
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| Quote ="That Mon"The cover we have is not up to much though is it, even the players they are covering for that matter
if we lose Mathers, Phelps and Goulding the only one that would be a loss would be Goulding, he may yet make it but needs time. Full back we have Richards and Roberts to cover both better than Mathers Goulding is replaced by Gleeson and effectivly we have both pryce and Baily to cover as well instead of Phelps .'"
I agree as Bailey can cover as he has done this season. If we do get Gleeson its an improvment on what we had.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Just said to a pal of mine, is it really worth losing possibly 3 fringe players to accommodate 1 player? What happens if we get a couple of injuries in the backs?'"
I don't believe you!
You don't have any pals!
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| Quote ="Pemps"Just said to a pal of mine, is it really worth losing possibly 3 fringe players to accommodate 1 player? What happens if we get a couple of injuries in the backs?'"
Thing is, all season weve been saying weve finally got depth in the squad, but at the same time we lack that little star quality (especially in the Backs ATM), Gleeson would be that ballance, losing a couple to gain some quality. I think its a good deal.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Just said to a pal of mine, is it really worth losing possibly 3 fringe players to accommodate 1 player? What happens if we get a couple of injuries in the backs?'"
If the reports are true we are swapping a FB who is not good enough, and who we have cover for and a centre, who is promising but probably over hyped and we have cover for, for an International centre. It's a great deal imo.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Thing is, all season weve been saying weve finally got depth in the squad, but at the same time we lack that little star quality (especially in the Backs ATM), Gleeson would be that ballance, losing a couple to gain some quality. I think its a good deal.'"
Correct, especially as one of them (Mathers) will never be given another crack at the 1st team without some fans castigating him from the 1st second.
I admit his overall performances have benn poor but IMO some fans used him as scapegoat from around early last season, mark my Words Pryce is the Next one!
As for Gleeson he also provides great cover for 6 as well, He was actually one of the few players who impressed me Down Under when I went to Oz last year!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Correct, especially as one of them (Mathers) will never be given another crack at the 1st team without some fans castigating him from the 1st second.
I admit his overall performances have benn poor but IMO some fans used him as scapegoat from around early last season, mark my Words Pryce is the Next one!
As for Gleeson he also provides great cover for 6 as well, He was actually one of the few players who impressed me Down Under when I went to Oz last year!'"
And if stories were to be believed, one of the few who might have the quality(if he chose to) to follow Ellis and make it in the NRL
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| without looking through all posts, is this a straight buy, or partial player exchange? And if so who is involved?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"without looking through all posts, is this a straight buy, or partial player exchange? And if so who is involved?'"
Its seems that Mathers will probably be part of the deal plus cash. But there has also been Gouldings name mentioned a few times as another incentive. Then Phelps and Smith have been mentioned aswell in odd cases but that might just be people hoping for an alternative to Goulding going.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Its seems that Mathers will probably be part of the deal plus cash. But there has also been Gouldings name mentioned a few times as another incentive. Then Phelps and Smith have been mentioned aswell in odd cases but that might just be people hoping for an alternative to Goulding going.'" apart from mathers, would you be happy to loose goulding who has lots of potential for gleeson who is clearly better for now, but older and more expensive?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"apart from mathers, would you be happy toloose goulding who has lots of potential for gleeson who is clearly better for now, but older and more expensive?'"
Refer to my post quoted by Pemps as the 1st post in this thread. I explained the situation from my point of view regarding Goulding
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"apart from mathers, would you be happy to loose goulding who has lots of potential for gleeson who is clearly better for now, but older and more expensive?'"
If Goulding could actually find the ability to pass the ball then no I wouldn't be happy.
It's a bloody big if though
To be fair i'd rather see Goulding out on loan for a year with a message to learn how to chuffing pass to your winger.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"If Goulding could actually find the ability to pass the ball then no I wouldn't be happy. It's a bloody big if though
To be fair i'd rather see Goulding out on loan for a year with a message to learn how to chuffing pass to your winger.'" As saints have done with Scott Moore and it does seem to have paid off with him.
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| Agreed, just Goulding for some reason doesn't seem to be able to make that next step currently at Wigan. I think a loan would do him a lot of good.
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| Not think he would learn more from Gleeson in training then going out on loan
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| Quote ="monkeytowner"Not think he would learn more from Gleeson in training then going out on loan'" i know they are different people, but moore didnt blossom under kc, but at cas and hudds has become the real deal
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i know they are different people, but moore didnt blossom under kc, but at cas and hudds has become the real deal'"
Big difference doing it at Cas & Hudds & then doing it under the Spotlight at Saints, I know your on "Scott Moore watch" and he has played well but doing it back at Saints is a whole different ball game!
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| Gleeson didnt play for warrington against york today, very interesting
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| 2.30pm announcement?
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| Quote ="RB"2.30pm announcement?
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| Quote ="monkeytowner"Must be delayed until tomorrow now'"
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