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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly, the overpaid Australian second row (according to the experts on here), who when doesn't play Wigan ship in a shedful of points.'"
But could Hansen not do the same job if given the chance to start a match?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly, the overpaid Australian second row (according to the experts on here), who when doesn't play Wigan ship in a shedful of points.'"
He's still overpaid though, isn't he?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly, the overpaid Australian second row (according to the experts on here), who when doesn't play Wigan ship in a shedful of points.'"
Last year i would have agreed with you this year he seems to have lost his quality in this area too.
He like the rest of our team is scared stiff by pace, the tactic of allowing our opposition to run at us does not help him in my opinion and makes him look worse than he is. Hopefully this week will see us throw this ridiculous tactic out and see him back to shoring up the right side defence, if it does not, i expect much the same as we saw against Wakefield who made 2 crucial breaks round Bailey and who in truth could and should have put 20 on us by halftime but for some loose first game of the season errors.
Had they played like they played vs Salford they would have put 30 on us.
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| Bailey will be back as will Richards says Noble!
I'd go with Richards, Roberts, Goulding, Carmont, Ainscough in the backs.
Smith & TL halves, Forwards, Fielden, Riddell, Coley, Bailey, Hansen, Lockers. bench. Feka, O'Carroll, J Tomkins, Prescott.
I reckon Mcmac will be suspended, hope not but fear he maybe.
Don't think Hock will make it either.
Hock took a real knock before he went off. When he warmed up for his return he was running freely and the physio appeared to ask him if he was ok and he nodded as if to say yeh, fine! One tackle then gone.
For me he's got to do contact in training before they consider him v Quins.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Bailey will be back as will Richards says Noble!
I'd go with Richards, Roberts, Goulding, Carmont, Ainscough in the backs.
Smith & TL halves, Forwards, Fielden, Riddell, Coley, Bailey, Hansen, Lockers. bench. Feka, O'Carroll, J Tomkins, Prescott.
I reckon Mcmac will be suspended, hope not but fear he maybe.
Don't think Hock will make it either.
Hock took a real knock before he went off. When he warmed up for his return he was running freely and the physio appeared to ask him if he was ok and he nodded as if to say yeh, fine! One tackle then gone.
For me he's got to do contact in training before they consider him v Quins.'"
5 props, get a grip Ted just put Prescott in and leave Coley in the services.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"5 props, get a grip Ted just put Prescott in and leave Coley in the services.'"
Correct!
And preferably the services at Charnock Richard mopping out the Urinals!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Correct!
And preferably the services at Charnock Richard mopping out the Urinals!'"
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Bailey will be back as will Richards says Noble!
I'd go with Richards, Roberts, Goulding, Carmont, Ainscough in the backs.
Smith & TL halves, Forwards, Fielden, Riddell, Coley, Bailey, Hansen, Lockers. bench. Feka, O'Carroll, J Tomkins, Prescott.
I reckon Mcmac will be suspended, hope not but fear he maybe.
Don't think Hock will make it either.
Hock took a real knock before he went off. When he warmed up for his return he was running freely and the physio appeared to ask him if he was ok and he nodded as if to say yeh, fine! One tackle then gone.
For me he's got to do contact in training before they consider him v Quins.'"
Hock will make it
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| Ainscough has to play imo and i'm quite liking the idea of Bailey moving back to centre which would help out that right side defence especially if Smith is still picked.
I'd personally go-
Richards
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Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Smith
S Tomkins
Fielden
Leuluai
Prescott
Hansen
J Tomkins
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Ainscough has to play imo and i'm quite liking the idea of Bailey moving back to centre which would help out that right side defence especially if Smith is still picked.
I'd personally go-
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Roberts
Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Smith
S Tomkins
Fielden
Leuluai
Prescott
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin
subs
Paleaaesina
O'Carroll
Hock
Riddell'"
Jeez, on paper that squad looks suprisingly strong.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Ainscough has to play imo and i'm quite liking the idea of Bailey moving back to centre which would help out that right side defence especially if Smith is still picked.
I'd personally go-
Richards
Roberts
Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Smith
S Tomkins
Fielden
Leuluai
Prescott
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin
subs
Paleaaesina
O'Carroll
Hock
Riddell'"
I wish we would see this team but won't hold my breath.
PS McIllorum in for Riddell if not banned.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Jeez, on paper that squad looks suprisingly strong.'"
It's an exciting line up but Nobby doesn't really do excitment
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| Quote ="- Neil -"Am I the only person to think that Hansen isnt good enough?'"
Amongst Wigan fans, the answer is apparently yes.
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| Quote ="talulah"On the Wigantoday site he is quoted as saying "I have no doubts we have a team in there, and when we get everyone back on deck, we'll be fine. Hopefully we'll get Bailey and Richards for Saturday." ([urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Noble39s-trio-return-hope.5005244.jp[/url)
Note the telling omission?
We'll see.'"
These 2 bits are worrying though
Warriors can expect to welcome back Richard Mathers, Phil Bailey and Pat Richards for Saturday teatime's visit to Harlequins.
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While Bailey, Richards and Mathers await their return, Noble did have another set of fresh injuries to contend with after the Castleford defeat.
Try-scoring debutant Shaun Ainscough hurt his foot, while Gareth Hock suffered a recurrence of a hip injury.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Richards
Roberts
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Smith
S Tomkins
Fielden
Leuluai
Prescott
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin
subs
Paleaaesina
O'Carroll
Hock
Riddell'"
Thats the team. Though is Sam a 6 or a 7?!
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Amongst Wigan fans, the answer is apparently yes.
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And your well respected opinion is?
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| 1. Pat
2. Roberts
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Ainscough
6. Timmy
7. Tommy
8. Prescott
9. Riddel
10. Eamon
11. Bailey
12. J. Tomkins
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17. McIlloram/S.Tomkins
Goulding can improve his defensive work with good coaching and guidance, Fielden as useful as a wet fart at the moment. Prescott IMO will mix it better for the opening 20 mins rather than be on his back and not offering a fight.
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| If I told you that Fielden has made more tackle busts than any other player in Superleague this season would you be surprised?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If I told you that Fielden has made more tackle busts than any other player in Superleague this season would you be surprised?'"
no cause we've played more games than most teams
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If I told you that Fielden has made more tackle busts than any other player in Superleague this season would you be surprised?'"
He still doesnt get anywere though Brian. Its getting painful to watch him, against Cas i felt sorry for him. Sargent absolutly smashed him all over the park and i didnt see Fielden go to hit him back with a big hit or a dominating tackle of any sort. I wish i could give Eamon Fieldens frame.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"He still doesnt get anywere though Brian. Its getting painful to watch him, against Cas i felt sorry for him. Sargent absolutly smashed him all over the park and i didnt see Fielden go to hit him back with a big hit or a dominating tackle of any sort. I wish i could give Eamon Fieldens frame.'"
Rather give him Coley's
See your point though he would be one hell of a player with a build in the mould of a Fielden, Coley, Prescott etc
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| Noble was asked after the match about Ainscough's foot injury.
He said he thought Ainscough had just turned his ankle, there wasn't a problem and he'd be OK.
Whether things have changed mid week I don't know.
Hope he plays Saturday though!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And your well respected opinion is?'"
I think he's fairly average, he's not a poor player, but he isn't the defensive powerhouse that some on here seem to make him out to be.
The fact that he came through your academy tends to make some Wigan fans view him through tinted spectacles. If he'd come through the Wakey side (and bar it being a miracle ), very few of you would look upon him as a good signing.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Rather give him Coley's
See your point though he would be one hell of a player with a build in the mould of a Fielden, Coley, Prescott etc'"
hes one hell of a player without that build! imagine what the kid would be with a build of coleys? unstopable!
eamon ocarroll, eamon ocarroll
when he gets the ball
hear the wigan roar
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"He still doesnt get anywere though Brian. Its getting painful to watch him, against Cas i felt sorry for him. Sargent absolutly smashed him all over the park and i didnt see Fielden go to hit him back with a big hit or a dominating tackle of any sort. I wish i could give Eamon Fieldens frame.'"
He has absolutely no back up. Coley is a farce, O'Carrol and Prescott struggle to maintain their levels they initially set and Feka plays in bursts. We expect the world from Fielden (and rightly so) but without any kind of resonable help, what can he do?
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