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| Quote ="Levrier"If the NRL are really reducing the number of interchanges to six I could soon see them knocking for Gave Hamlin who can do long minutes at prop or 13.'"
I was very impressed with Hamlin, you have a good un there.
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| Cant fault that performance they do have that look about them, last seen in the run in to old Trafford 2016,we shall see if they keep it up.
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| Why did Gildart try to catch the ball? All he needed to do was let Makinson catch it and push him over the sideline.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Why did Gildart try to catch the ball? All he needed to do was let Makinson catch it and push him over the sideline.'"
It’s an easy game to play from the sideline isn’t it? In his post match interview Gildart said his intention was to knock it out of play which was probably the right thing to do. He was out jumped by Makinson who let’s face it, is very good in the air. It was great skill and sometimes you just have to tip your hat to it and say fair enough, well done!
Not seen any mention of the fact that we are now semi finalists as we are 11 points clear of 5th with 4 games to play. Simple really, win at least the last 2 games and we’re champions again!
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| Quote ="apollosghost"It'll be criminal if Tautai gets straight back in, not a patch on the props who played last night.
Is it just me or was the "finding your front asap" tactic binned last night in favour of trampling the opposition into the ground ?'"
I think they ditched that tactic a few games ago. We’ve seemed to trample defenders for fun recently.
At one point on Friday Navarrete (who I am really starting to rate) made an extra 15 meters in contact. Best thing was he could only get one leg free, so essentially he hopped on one leg and still main the gains.
Was brilliant.
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| The props certainly "stole" a few yards on and after contact and at the play of the ball, it was very crafty
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| I agree with the point about binning the tactic of finding the floor quickly. Seems stupid to me as the ref allows the tacklers to lie on for ages as it is a dominant tackle. It was great seeing the Wigan players fighting to make yardage.
It was disappointing a few weeks ago to see Joel Tomkins antics in the pub but things have worked out well in the long run...we now have an outstanding back row forward (even though Wane qualifies his praise for Greenwood.
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| Quote ="NSW"Williams back to his best.
Gildarts step of barba
Greenwood’s offloads
Lockers try
Hamlins fend on Wilkin before the Bateman try
Sam Powell’s defence
Even Oli Partington nailing Luke Thompson as soon as he came on the field
We were back to our physical imposing best, mixed in with some fluid attack.
The players seem to have sorted there heads out and our ready for the charge to Old Trafford.
The passion on show from the players when Gildart scored was something else.'"
We have a winner!
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| Great win. Hard not to be pleased with the level of performance and effort.
But... we must bring in a 7 before next season. We look a lot better with Tommy there but he's not the answer. Caught in possession way too many times. Poor kicking game and at times decision making. (I think at one point late in the game he put a speculative kick in for a winger on the second tackle only to lose position).
Away from the rugby I particularly enjoyed Bateman's singalong. He might be going, but I do believe he loves our club.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Great win. Hard not to be pleased with the level of performance and effort.
But... we must bring in a 7 before next season. We look a lot better with Tommy there but he's not the answer. Caught in possession way too many times. Poor kicking game and at times decision making. (I think at one point late in the game he put a speculative kick in for a winger on the second tackle only to lose position).
Away from the rugby I particularly enjoyed Bateman's singalong. He might be going, but I do believe he loves our club.'"
I don't disagree in general, but I honestly thought Tommy did quite well against Saints.
Thought we were fluid & excellent at getting the ball out to both edges, and Tommy's passing was good and better than it has been since he's come back.
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| Quote ="Cherry_&_White"I don't disagree in general, but I honestly thought Tommy did quite well against Saints.
Thought we were fluid & excellent at getting the ball out to both edges, and Tommy's passing was good and better than it has been since he's come back.'"
I agree it has. Team looks overall stronger with him at 7. But I think signing a 7 could take us even further. Maybe Lachlan Lam. However, talks about him coming to Wigan seem to have died down.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I agree it has. Team looks overall stronger with him at 7. But I think signing a 7 could take us even further. Maybe Lachlan Lam. However, talks about him coming to Wigan seem to have died down.'"
Agree.
It's been done to death slightly, but it's such a huge frustration that we have two such similar players in Leuluai & Powell! Wouldn't be as bad if Tommy looked ready to hang up his boots, but he's been excellent at 9 this year, it'd seem a terrible waste for us & him for him to retire prematurely.
A proper 7 would bring a new dimension to our attack, no doubt, but not sure where we're at with the salary cap. Could end up proving to be a tricky balancing act for Radlinski & Lam, especially considering I still think that we're short of a centre now that we're losing the cover that Bateman has given us.
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| Quote ="Cherry_&_White"Agree.
It's been done to death slightly, but it's such a huge frustration that we have two such similar players in Leuluai & Powell! Wouldn't be as bad if Tommy looked ready to hang up his boots, but he's been excellent at 9 this year, it'd seem a terrible waste for us & him for him to retire prematurely.
A proper 7 would bring a new dimension to our attack, no doubt, but not sure where we're at with the salary cap. Could end up proving to be a tricky balancing act for Radlinski & Lam, especially considering I still think that we're short of a centre now that we're losing the cover that Bateman has given us.'"
In the centres we have
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Manfredi, Burgess, Isa
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Forsyth. Mullen and Higginson
I'd love a Bill Tupou, but I think we might be set for 2019.
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| I’ve been a critic of Wane and due to being on holiday and my wife unplugging the Sky Box I’ve only been able to see the tries rather than the whole match.
On the basis of that though you have to give first and foremost Wane a massive amount of credit he put a game plan together that Saints seemed totally unable to handle. Let’s hope we can do it consistently now for the rest of the year as I think Saints and more likely Wire in my opinion will be a major threat.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’ve been a critic of Wayne and due to being on holiday and my wife unplugging the Sky Box I’ve only been able to see the tries rather than the whole match.
On the basis of that though you have to give first and foremost Wayne a massive amount of credit he put a game plan together that Saints seemed totally unable to handle. Let’s hope we can do it consistently now for the rest of the year as I think Saints and more likely Wire in my opinion will be a major threat.'"
Pity you missed the whole thing, believe me when I say the tries & scoreline don't flatter us one little bit.
Biggest thing I took away was how knackered they looked when we had only just begun the second half. They'd just had a week off, and even just after half time we'd taken so much out of them that we were making meters for fun. Even when they ended up getting one back (very much against the run of play!) I don't think many were actually that worried about a comeback because it was so obvious that we had it over them physically.
No point getting back into the Wane debate now, but our fitness in the last few years has been absolutely amazing. Really hope that it's not something which is allowed to deteriorate when Wane leaves the building.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’ve been a critic of Wane and due to being on holiday and my wife unplugging the Sky Box I’ve only been able to see the tries rather than the whole match.
On the basis of that though you have to give first and foremost Wane a massive amount of credit he put a game plan together that Saints seemed totally unable to handle. Let’s hope we can do it consistently now for the rest of the year as I think Saints and more likely Wire in my opinion will be a major threat.'"
I have been and also still am in some respects a huge critic of Wane but that performance on Friday was absolutely outstanding in every department. Our defence was awesom, our attack was fluid and quick. GW looked like a HB with freedom and boy did he look the part, I can’t remember a game in a long time where I’ve thought GW was outstanding. Very unlucky not to get MOM IMHO, genuinely I think he deserved it but you can have no complaints over Greenwood getting it.
Absolute credit to Wane, the team was set up perfectly with the right balances throughout. Sarginson was awesome, Powell barely put a foot wrong. Essentially all the players singled out for criticism, and heavy criticism at that, were superb.
Without sounding pessimistic; I hope this just isn’t a one game wonder and we’re back to the usual drivel for the next game!
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| Good point about Saints looking tired. They have played nearly their strongest team consistently throughout the year, not much rotation. It's fine when your team is high on confidence and winning.
Catalans exposed them and this wobble must have the self doubts creeping in - added to Barba's form falling away and talks of his departure.
On the other hand, we are looking fresh - players coming back from injuries and playing into form at the right time. Plenty of reasons to be optimistic about of chances at the big one.
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| Powell looked like the player he was a few years ago.
Wane made a massive mistake in moving him to 7 and nearly ruined his career.
Edwards has had a word in Wanes shell...
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"
Edwards has had a word in Wanes shell...'"
That’s about as likely as someone claiming it’s was all part of Wane’s Master plan.
It wasn’t working as well as hoped, the coach changed it. Simples.
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| Quote ="Trainman"That’s about as likely as someone claiming it’s was all part of Wane’s Master plan.
It wasn’t working as well as hoped, the coach changed it. Simples.'"
Wanes history.
Maybe the players are playing to impress their future managers.
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Wanes history.
Maybe the players are playing to impress their future managers.'"
Maybe, or more likely there focus is on trying to win a trophy this year.
Wane isn’t history quite yet but he does have a chance to make history over the next few weeks.
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| I will be so pleased for him if he does.
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| People can question Wane tactically or criticise him for how stubborn he can be but I’ve never had any doubt the players have a great deal of feeling for him.
When he announced he was leaving and things went to pot some believed it was because the players had stopped playing for him when in my mind it was the complete opposite! The players were gutted about his departure and struggling to pick themselves up. They’ve now settled down and you can tell how determined they are to send him out on a high.
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| Quote ="Trainman"That’s about as likely as someone claiming it’s was all part of Wane’s Master plan.
It wasn’t working as well as hoped, the coach changed it. Simples.'"
I think that we have changed tactics maybe Wane has had a chat with Lammy and Edwards over a pint and they have influenced him.We are not going to ground with the forwards anymore and George is working left and right given a bit of freedom .Lammy did pick on this in his interview????
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"People can question Wane tactically or criticise him for how stubborn he can be but I’ve never had any doubt the players have a great deal of feeling for him.
When he announced he was leaving and things went to pot some believed it was because the players had stopped playing for him when in my mind it was the complete opposite! The players were gutted about his departure and struggling to pick themselves up. They’ve now settled down and you can tell how determined they are to send him out on a high.'"
I have criticised SW for his tactics in recent years however, nobody can doubt his enthusiasm for the club and his players. The sheer delight on his face during and after the game made my day.
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