pi%% off

I know you're trolling, and not even a wigan fan but I thought i'd pull up on 2013. One of the luckiest doubles I can remember. Wigan didn't even play a top 5 team to win the CC due to the draw, they barely played a super league team! They then stuttered and grinded their way to CC victory in one of the worst finals in living memory. Hull possibly had less than 30% completion they were that bad in that game.

Then in the grand final final warrington were dominating until they sustained injuries to 3 of their backs and subsequently collapsed, wigan finished 4th in the league.

Lazy me- Smith is diabolical. He cannot pass a ball and must quite simply be the worst halfback ever to grace a Wigan jersey.

Thinking me- We can't keep running 'the move' when we have such a weak link at its heart! To play in such a structured manner you need players to feed the danger man with clockwork like accuracy. If we haven't got them men them the coaching staff need to earn their money and cone up with plan B.

I'm always calm and cool and I've believed all year that we'll be fine with a full team but the trust is running low.

I'm baffled as to who I blame tbh, the chicken (Wane) or the Egg (Smith). Some tough words are needed this week down at training (by a few people).

Willing Hull on... that surely makes you a Hull fan. Ah well, you can tell the rest of the Hull fans what's wrong with them day in day out.

Although, just maybe you should become a professional coach as you always seem to know best?

You are delusional beyond belief I guess most of the people on this board have you on ignore.

Amazing how opposition fans seem angry at the fact im not angry at our coach.

Its almost as if they want us to sack him. I wonder why that is?

Feeling a bit relieved to be honest, if we'd scraped it in the last minute, the prospect of getting ripped apart at Wembley by Wire isn't very appetising.

Because he's completely devoid of attacking ideas.

We are not there yet, HKR still haunts me.

Jam tomorrow

I'm a rugby fan over a Wigan fan. We have to promote the game, Wigan in the final would not be a good advert for our game the way we currently play.

The whole idea of a forum is to express opinion. Not sure what yours is but stating I should be a coach (which I am of a cracking u11s team) is a bit daft. Offer a counter rather than talk silly.

Result aside, yet again we have no idea, no options, no doubt in the hull players as to where the ball was going, easy to read and predictable. It's boring, it's ineffective, it's frustrating and is now getting embarrassing, it's also getting insulting that the club expect the fans to pay good money taking their families to watch this crap over and over, week after week.

All around good effort from both sides with plenty of desire. Penalty count was about even, territory and possession probably the same. Could have gone either way but congratulations to Hull, i won't grumble about the result because i would say that solely on attacking they deserved the win. Defences pretty even. Surprised Houghton didn't get man of the match, i thought he was outstanding.

On to us, Matty Smith is the easiest place to start. Kicking is dreadful as we know but that goal kick was the icing on the cake. Horrendous. His passing is a non event, a half back who can't pass or kick, hmmmmmm!!! His suicide passes make me cringe.

Sarginson is just awful. One trick pony who has long been sussed out.

Bateman badly and rarely off form tonight attacking with ball in hand.

Lockers was very quiet for a game of that magnitute.

Manfredi made an error but that is very rare but i hardly ever saw him on the ball and never saw him running it back

Powell, for all his tackling and endeavour he just doesn't do enough.

Tierney showed a lot of signs of greenness although he is considered a pro now, Running the ball so close to the touchline on the first tackle and then into touch and where was he when Hull went in on the left? Tomkins raced past him to attempt the tackle.

The ineptness going forward was so clear to see, we need a serious playmaker at 7 next season. Seriously lacking in that department. Soward anyone??? Disappointed to be out but beaen by a better side and hopefully something will happen in the summer and Wigan will go back to playing rugby again.

Nicky we are totally useless.
This is the worst side side for over 30 years.
The blame is Lenegan and KR.
KR should be gone tonight and SW as soon as a replacement can be found.
Lenegan should offer his shares to the public.
A club that is so inept it deserves a coach that is totally and utterly clueless.
We lost tonight and I was glad. Who the hell wants such a joyless bunch of wrestlers playing at Wembley?

Just watched first 20 of the Bulldogs V's St George game. It was like watching the dross served up tonight in fast forward.

This is how I feel this season. Sick of seeing the same tactics week after week.

We have been figured out and this has nullified our "attack", for us to have the 2nd worst points scored over the season is embarrassing, regardless of injuries. The coaching system has turned the squad into robots intent on wrestling and smashing teams into submission.

I'm bored. I was bored last season and even more so this season.
Due to work commitments it's becoming increasingly difficult to commit to attending matches and I'm seriously considering not renewing my season ticket next year. I'm just not being entertained.


I'm not the only one, our average attendance has dropped from around 15k to just over 12k this season, I believe that figure is inflated too compared to bums on seats. Many a game the attendance has been given out as higher than in the stadium. I feel many have stopped going mid season.

You can't blame them really.

6 hours on a motorway (probably another 6 today ) for that . I'm sorry but a few need to look in the mirror today and have a good think and I'm not talking about the youngsters either.

Regards , EW

Yet top of the league.

Hull played as well as they needed to. They, like most teams now, had us sussed from minute 1and didn't need to do anything special to beat a totally boring and inept team.

but average enough to beat you 2 out of 3,including a semi final.

First of all the better team won, fully deserved Hull win. I was fuming last night with our attack and I still don't feel anything different this morning. The attack broke down time and time again with Matty Smith. I have always stuck up for Smith and appreciated his role in the team but last night the last straw. To miss that kick to go 2 points behind was criminal, that would have meant Hull would have had to defend and not give a penalty away, which automatically speeds up the ruck. Then a few minutes later we have huge numbers on our right and one of his passes goes to ground and the attack breaks down. Hugely frustrating, he seems a nice bloke but nice blokes don't win you games.

I, too like many other fans, want to see attacking rugby. This season I can't really remember more than a few games where we have played what we see. I'm getting bored going to games and feel I have only been entertained this year due to the closeness of some games. The attack is so easy to defend but yet we're only 4 points from being at Wembley and 2 points off the top of the league. This team are performing well below their potential. If we don't win anything this year, I do feel Wane has to go but sadly can't see Radlinski or Lenegan making such a decision.

I'm going to buck the trend here.

That was a GOOD semi-final, tight, competitive and fierce. Both sides defended really well (2 tries each). Wigan lost the game on two pieces of poor play. The pass for the Tierney try, no need for it to be passed forward, it was a walk in. Then the Dom Manfredi dropped ball. If you wanted any winger in that position it would be him but he spilled it. In all the time watching him from academy level up I can't recall him ever dropping a simple catch like that before. We don't make those two errors and we win the game, simple as that.

I enjoyed the game, it was a real contest that could have gone either way. I'll watch it again over the weekend, maybe I'll change my mind.

Likewise.

If this game was a one off, a tight tense semi final were teams were too scared of losing to try and win I might agree. Fact is though it's a continuation of the last 12 months, boring, unimaginative, predictable and monotonous.