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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
Any more examples of KC thuggery yet? It's OK to admit you were wrong by the way.'"
I heard he stepped on a worm in training last week and didn't apologise. The git!
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| Quote ="Saint Ryan"[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=2501&hs2=2010&hp2=359&stat=tries&season=2010[/url
So much of a thug that Tomkins has conceded more penalties? But don't let stats get in the way of your anti KC hate, Fishsta
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Quote ="JTB"Doesn't KC play 40 minutes a match? Poor use of statistics to illustrate what's a pretty tedious argument anyway.'"
So in SEVEN more appearances, Tomkins conceded TWO more penalties. And if Cunningham only plays 40 minutes a match, that means Sam's average of .66 of a penalty per match is a lot lower than Cunningham's 1.5 penalties per match!
Add on how much he gets away with... deary me.
Quote ="FearTheVee"Any more examples of KC thuggery yet? It's OK to admit you were wrong by the way.'"
Cripes, online before school now.
Like I said, there'll be plenty of examples this weekend.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Like I said, there'll be plenty of examples this weekend.'"
So you come up with one incident in 16 years, for which no ban was given. What a thug.
What thuggish acts did he pull off in the televised game last weekend out of interest? I think I may have noticed him tread on someone's toe when he scored the winner, the cad.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"So you come up with one incident in 16 years, for which no ban was given. What a thug.
What thuggish acts did he pull off in the televised game last weekend out of interest? I think I may have noticed him tread on someone's toe when he scored the winner, the cad.'"
I agree.
KC is by no means whiter than white, but i would never describe him as a thug.
He is now worse than any other SL player. It is a ruff old game after all and sometimes a bit of intimidation is the order of the day.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"I am clearly NOT obsessed with Cunningham. What annoys me is how he's apparantly above the laws of the game. Radford throws a punch last weekend after provocation, gets a match ban (since overturned). Cunningham throws punches, causing injury, with NO provocation... doesn't even have to face the panel. It's a joke.
I hoped to see him in action in a GB shirt, combining with Sam. But yes, to be honest, I think he should fully recover now, leave it to next year even.
Don't talk wet. I've got the best interests of the game at heart. I'd much rather Eastmond, a young CLEAN talent, was available without injury no matter who he played for as his presence is of benefit to the game as a whole.
No, it's not too early to say at all. He IS better than Cunningham ever could be.'"
You must really hate us don't you.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"I am clearly NOT obsessed with Cunningham. What annoys me is how he's apparantly above the laws of the game. Radford throws a punch last weekend after provocation, gets a match ban (since overturned). Cunningham throws punches, causing injury, with NO provocation... doesn't even have to face the panel. It's a joke.
I hoped to see him in action in a GB shirt, combining with Sam. But yes, to be honest, I think he should fully recover now, leave it to next year even.
Don't talk wet. I've got the best interests of the game at heart. I'd much rather Eastmond, a young CLEAN talent, was available without injury no matter who he played for as his presence is of benefit to the game as a whole.
No, it's not too early to say at all. He IS better than Cunningham ever could be.'"
Not Obsessed? Every Topic about him you are there, every argument you bring him up. Hell you even took time out of your day to ring another club to try and prove a point against him!
You don't have the best interests of the game at Heart, if you did you would acknowledge (Like many fair Wigan Fans have) That KC has been a fantastic player over the years.
Fielden threw punches against Huddersfield and wasn't banned, Joel Tomkins ran in against Leeds. I dont remember either of them being banned, Don't remember you complaining about that. Maybe that's because they are Wigan players, or more importantly not KC.
It is FAR too early to say Eastmond is better than Cunningham. Keiron has been at the top of the game for many, many years. If Eastmond manages to do half of what Keiron does then maybe you can say this. Although as they play in different positions comparison is almost pointless anyway.
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| Good god. Is this thread still going?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Good god. Is this thread still going?'"
Are you kidding? It's hilarious!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"So you come up with one incident in 16 years, for which no ban was given. What a thug.
What thuggish acts did he pull off in the televised game last weekend out of interest? I think I may have noticed him tread on someone's toe when he scored the winner, the cad.'"
I named another few in an earlier post, thought you might ignore them, you being so biased. And he didn't disappoint on Friday, there were a few, but watch around the 60 minute mark for a primo example of Cunningham's thuggish play. As the player is being tackled, he throws a punch at the player's face, luckily only just catches the top of his head. Was he punished? Was he buggery.
I have to admit his try was a good one, though.
But what the hell happened to the referee for that disgraceful Gidley try? I think it was Gidley who scored it, but after Gidley and Foster were offside for the kick, then Foster took out Hicks IN THE AIR and OFF THE BALL, then I don't think Gidley grounded it properly... SHOCKING inadequacy from the referee.
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| If we're talking thugs, surely someone sticking the boot into a defenseless player about to play the ball deserves to be banned sine die? Don't they?
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| Interestingly awaiting your comments on the spear tackle the Joel kick to the head and the Sam 'grab an arm and a penalty' Tomkins incidents from Fishta.
You do make your side look holier than thou at times and yourself an absolute tool
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"If we're talking thugs, surely someone sticking the boot into a defenseless player about to play the ball deserves to be banned sine die? Don't they?'"
Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Interestingly awaiting your comments on the spear tackle the Joel kick to the head and the Sam 'grab an arm and a penalty' Tomkins incidents from Fishta.
You do make your side look holier than thou at times and yourself an absolute tool
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The boot was stupid. Think the ref saw it was retaliation to a lash-out from McGuire and let it go, but no, he shouldn't have. Due to the fact it was more of a push and to the ball rather than the player, I reckon he'll get 2 matches, so be back for the Grand Final. And if you think that deserved a Sine Die ban, Cunningham should have been castrated and fed to hungry orphans in Africa for what he did to Stosic.
The Spear tackle.. well, I was surprised Eastwood didn't get his marching orders for that one.
As for the grab an arm, we've been caught out getting our arms on the ball in a few matches this season, whilst I disagree with the tactic it would be inconsistent to start penalising for it now.
As I said elsewhere, being fair, should the players have their hands on the ball unless it's one on one anyway?
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| A push! HELLO it was a petulant kick why look a tool and try to defend him, try using some of that self proclaimed wisdom and principles you use to criticise other sides player for that of your own.
So it's been happening all year, best not to penalise this cheating now? So should every player now adopt this tactic and ruin the play off season or as long as it's 'our Sam' it's ok! - you are laughable mate.
No comment on the spear tackle executed by Prescott then Fishta.
I raise these questions to you because of your pathetic drivel and bias - you're rubbish above proves how subjective you really are
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"A push! HELLO it was a petulant kick why look a tool and try to defend him, try using some of that self proclaimed wisdom and principles you use to criticise other sides player for that of your own.'"
I didn't defend him. I explained why the ref probably let it go WHEN HE SHOULDN'T HAVE. Don't make more stuff up now.
Quote So it's been happening all year, best not to penalise this cheating now? So should every player now adopt this tactic and ruin the play off season or as long as it's 'our Sam' it's ok! - you are laughable mate. '"
Again, I didn't say that. In fact, I said I DISAGREE WITH THE TACTIC. Hardly saying it's ok, is it?
Quote No comment on the spear tackle executed by Prescott then Fishta. '"
Didn't see it, unfortunately. If it happened then I hope it's dealt with.
Quote I raise these questions to you because of your pathetic drivel and bias - you're rubbish above proves how subjective you really are
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Actually, all it proves is that you can't read what's written on the screen in front of you... including my username.
Shall I start calling you "there only one tan wall"?
No, I've more sense than that.
As for petulant kicks, maybe it will be dealt with in the same way Senior's was dealt with in the Challenge Cup match. But that won't be up to me.
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| My My Fishsta, seems you have a lot of thugs in your team. Joel Tomkins kicking someone on the floor, Prescott spear tackling someone and another player taking out McGuire. I think you better stop supporting Wigan after all this Thuggish behaviour, I know from experience what a strong campaigner you are against "Thugs" in the game!
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| Quote ="JLM23"My My Fishsta, seems you have a lot of thugs in your team. Joel Tomkins kicking someone on the floor, Prescott spear tackling someone and another player taking out McGuire. I think you better stop supporting Wigan after all this Thuggish behaviour, I know from experience what a strong campaigner you are against "Thugs" in the game!'"
For frigs sake did you have to bring this thread back?
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| Quote ="JLM23"My My Fishsta, seems you have a lot of thugs in your team. Joel Tomkins kicking someone on the floor, Prescott spear tackling someone and another player taking out McGuire. I think you better stop supporting Wigan after all this Thuggish behaviour, I know from experience what a strong campaigner you are against "Thugs" in the game!'"
Another one who can't read. Cripes. They're all out tonight.
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| Quote ="MattyB"For frigs sake did you have to bring this thread back?
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I didn't do it mate! It had already re-appeared on the 1st page.
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| Quote ="JLM23"icon_biggrin.gif I didn't do it mate! It had already re-appeared on the 1st page.'"
That's my week ruined now. Any chance they could invent an 'ignore' button for a thread?
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| I think Fishta should get an award, "the Ryan Bailey of the Message Boards".
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think Fishta should get an award, "the Ryan Bailey of the Message Boards".'"
Because I beat you down in a ferocious and unrelenting torrent of verbal thumpings?
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Another one who can't read. Cripes. They're all out tonight.'"
Poor comeback, Poor Effort. You accused Moore for one of thuggery naming one incident. Well 2, maybe 3 of your players have committed acts of "thuggery" tonight, so I expect you'll be refusing to attend any more games until they are gone.
P.S A lot of people seemed to speak very highly of that "over-rated thug" before the Game on Friday.
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| I suppose JLM23 thinks Carmont should be banned for life by daring to maliciously attack Danny McGuire with his spine.
The Joel incident, fair enough, it was a stupid thing to do and it's cost us the match, he could get a ban for it, but given that Senior got away with kicking him in the head earlier this year I suspect he may get let off.
Prescott's spear tackle ended with the Leeds player on his legs, as opposed to the Buderus one leaving a player on his neck which was much more dangerous.
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| Quote ="V For Vendetta"I suppose JLM23 thinks Carmont should be banned for life by daring to maliciously attack Danny McGuire with his spine.
The Joel incident, fair enough, it was a stupid thing to do and it's cost us the match, he could get a ban for it, but given that Senior got away with kicking him in the head earlier this year I suspect he may get let off.
Prescott's spear tackle ended with the Leeds player on his legs, as opposed to the Buderus one leaving a player on his neck which was much more dangerous.'"
No I don't, read the whole topic and you will see that it's long been my argument that just because someone does something in one game doesn't make them a thug.
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| Quote ="JLM23"No I don't, read the whole topic and you will see that it's long been my argument that just because someone does something in one game doesn't make them a thug.'"
Which has long been my argument as to why Wilkin, Leon Pryce and Cunningham are thugs!
We come full circle at last.
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