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| Getting rid of Higham was never a mistake.
He was an error ridden player who was one of the worst penalty conceders in the game.
His supposed forte was making metres from his scoots, which he didn't do.
He did kiss the badge though so I suppose that made him good.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Getting rid of Higham was never a mistake.
He was an error ridden player who was one of the worst penalty conceders in the game.
His supposed forte was making metres from his scoots, which he didn't do.
He did kiss the badge though so I suppose that made him good. icon_rolleyes.gif'"
I wouldn't be suprised if he does the same at wire.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Getting rid of Higham was never a mistake.
He was an error ridden player who was one of the worst penalty conceders in the game.
His supposed forte was making metres from his scoots, which he didn't do.
He did kiss the badge though so I suppose that made him good.
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Totally agree, but for some reason not many don't see it like it is.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Getting rid of Higham was never a mistake.
He was an error ridden player who was one of the worst penalty conceders in the game.
His supposed forte was making metres from his scoots, which he didn't do.
He did kiss the badge though so I suppose that made him good.
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Agreed - like I said for fun, considering the amount of supporters Higham had on here. He had positives but outweighed by significant negatives of errors and penalties that are evident from the stats at Warrington.
Piggy is an undoubted upgrade, but one that in my view is still underachieving given his reputation. His predictability worries me, his distribution is good from dummy half but he relies on it far too much. He has an advantage of surprising pace for his size that isn't used enough to challenge defences to make decisions that could open gaps out wide or lead to more breaks for him personally. Don't know whether fitness or coaching is the issue.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
He did kiss the badge though so I suppose that made him good.
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Dont forget running towards the south stand with a scarf.
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| Noble could start with Gleeson back at centre, after the game Friday he said he'd be fit for Catalans. Pryce to bench.
Phelps,
Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Richards,
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Bailey, Mossop,
Joel. Bench - Feka, Fielden, Pryce, Flanagan.
When Riddell is interchanged, Tommy to 9, Sam to 7 and Gleeson to 6 with Pryce off the bench to 3. With 20 to go Tommy or Sam to bench and Flanagan on.
We are getting thin on the ground now.
Catalans have that massive pack and this will be a real test for our forwards.
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| The good thing from Friday was that BOTH our hookers outplayed Chad Randall, who has IMO been the standout hooker in Superleague this season.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The good thing from Friday was that BOTH our hookers outplayed Chad Randall, who has IMO been the standout hooker in Superleague this season.'"
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Mossop may be called back this week and Smith looks to be done for the year(well for ever in a Wigan shirt).
Lockers out for upto a month according to that which if rumour on here is anything to go by is very good news.
I think we need to be looking round for a short term signing or 2 if possible with Hock's Money and possibly Smith's if they choose to release him.
Give Kidwell a short term deal to try and earn himself a deal for next year if he's out of favour at Souths
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Mossop may be called back this week and Smith looks to be done for the year(well for ever in a Wigan shirt).
Lockers out for upto a month according to that which if rumour on here is anything to go by is very good news.
I think we need to be looking round for a short term signing or 2 if possible with Hock's Money and possibly Smith's if they choose to release him.
Give Kidwell a short term deal to try and earn himself a deal for next year if he's out of favour at Souths
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| Terrific news if O'Loughlin is back for the semi-final.
Being without Hansen isn't exactly a disappointment when we have other young players who need game time.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He went well.
Rather than make too many changes if we are really struggling I wouldn't have any problems putting him in the first team.
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Agree with this. Really don't see the point of making 3 or 4 positional changes in the backs to accomodate Leuluai at 9, especially if we have to make backrow changes as well because of Hansen and Locky out.
Keep the backs as they are and give Gee his chance and just ask him to keep it simple. If they don't think he' ready I'd give Flanagan a go at back-up 9, just so we don't have to play musical chairs in the backs with the inevitable disruption it will cause.
He should have the mobility and passing to do it as a back-up, again with the plan for him to keep it simple when on.
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| Try Phelps at hooker?
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| Spot on, we should only change people from last week who we have to, to keep continuity in the team.
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| Sam Gee is and out and out hooker, and IMO a very good one. He has decent pace and very good hands, but doesn't seem to have a kicking game.
I would love to see him get a first team game, just to see how he performs under pressure. The reserves don't have a game next weekend.
As I said previously we shouldn't try to shuffle half the team around if we don't really have to.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sam Gee is and out and out hooker, and IMO a very good one. He has decent pace and very good hands, but doesn't seem to have a kicking game.
I would love to see him get a first team game, just to see how he performs under pressure. The reserves don't have a game next weekend.
As I said previously we shouldn't try to shuffle half the team around if we don't really have to.'"
What would you say to putting Flanagan at 9 Rogues?
That would allow both Mossop and Farrell to have a go in the back row.
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| Out for the season Smith
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Out for the season Smith
just been on Sky sports news'"
With the club "wishing him all the best" I suspect that all but confirms he won't be back in 2010 and lets be honest, he wont be missed in the slightest.
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| Bit unlucky that we've lost all our three most experienced (at club) players in the last fortnight for one reason or another. No substitute for it. But we've had a strong reserve team so let's see how we cope.
I just hope Locky and Mike Mc are back for the semi final.
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| Quote ="jackdog"Try Phelps at hooker?'"
No. We have a former U17'S, U19'S, NSW and Australia Junior international in our squad who can play at stand off.
Thomas Leuluai is a world cup winning hooker.
6 - Phelps
7- Tomkins
Riddell and Leuluai at hooker.
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| Quote ="cadoo"No. We have a former U17'S, U19'S, NSW and Australia Junior international in our squad who can play at stand off.
Thomas Leuluai is a world cup winning hooker.
6 - Phelps
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Riddell and Leuluai at hooker.'"
Phelps moving to 6 intrigues me, Aussie fans reckoned it was his best position, could he be a revelation and save us buying a halfback?
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| Quote ="AJ"Phelps moving to 6 intrigues me, Aussie fans reckoned it was his best position, could he be a revelation and save us buying a halfback?'"
Another solid reason why it is worth a shot.
You don't get picked for them sides (at stand off especially) if your average.
The Canterbury fans were sick as pigs that Phelps never got a shot at stand off. (Or should I say 5/8th )
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| Skipper Sean O’Loughlin picked up a knee injury and is set to be sidelined for up to six weeks. Similarly hooker Michael McIlorum picked up medial ligament damage to his knee and is also out for up to six weeks while Second Row forward Harrison Hansen is the third casualty from the weekend with a suspected broken hand.
The Club can also confirm that Stand–Off Tim Smith has been ruled out for the rest of the season; Smith damaged his shoulder last Sunday in the win at Hull KR and will need surgery and will return to Australia this week.
bad news all round for us
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| Quote ="AJ"Phelps moving to 6 intrigues me, Aussie fans reckoned it was his best position, could he be a revelation and save us buying a halfback?'"
As someone said in the Tim Smith thread nothing ventured nothing gained and it’s the perfect chance or opportunity for Noble to play a wild card so to speak.
A consistent performer since he came in at the Saints game at least we know the pressure won’t faze him one bit and from the limited amount of kicks I’ve seen him make he seems to have a half decent boot on him as well.
All Phelps needs to do is play a fast expansive game imo lets get Tommy in at 9 making quick yards at the ruck and let Phelps quickly get the ball out wide to Carmont and Gleeson in plenty of space and time and let these guys do the thinking whilst it’s his first game at 6 in a while.
With Richards at FB and Gleeson back in at centre Pryce can push out to the wing. Although it’s a little mix up it’s the same players as last week slightly realigned. Richards won’t let us down at FB and I’d love to see Pryce outside Carmont with the chances he’s created this season for Richards.
Simples
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Bad news if true on McIlorum. He's on career best form recently and with Smith out we really could do without this.
Maybe Riddell can do the full 80
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"As someone said in the Tim Smith thread nothing ventured nothing gained and it’s the perfect chance or opportunity for Noble to play a wild card so to speak.
A consistent performer since he came in at the Saints game at least we know the pressure won’t faze him one bit and from the limited amount of kicks I’ve seen him make he seems to have a half decent boot on him as well.
All Phelps needs to do is play a fast expansive game imo lets get Tommy in at 9 making quick yards at the ruck and let Phelps quickly get the ball out wide to Carmont and Gleeson in plenty of space and time and let these guys do the thinking whilst it’s his first game at 6 in a while.
With Richards at FB and Gleeson back in at centre Pryce can push out to the wing. Although it’s a little mix up it’s the same players as last week slightly realigned. Richards won’t let us down at FB and I’d love to see Pryce outside Carmont with the chances he’s created this season for Richards.
Simples'"
I think that would be the prefect option against a big but quite slow Catalan pack! With S. Tomkin's speed invloved too.
Back line how about??
1 - Roberts
2 - Goulding
3 - Pryce
4 - Carmont
5 - Richards
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