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| Quote ="Jukesays"Seems my post has now been used on a Latics Forum
Thanks to the guy who copied it, and I realise the good intentions of what you intended. I obviously left a lot of detail about stuff out of the above as it was already a boring enough post
However, because I didn't erect some kind of Shrine to DW in my post it appears I'm now an "Ungrateful Grade A F*****g A*****le" amongst other things
And even funnier, because he called me a respected "Board member" (I'll let you judge the respected bit!) they've now gone off on one and think I'm a director/Board member of the actual club!
I'm sure that'll get spun over the next few years, out on other social media platforms and become True and given as evidence that the rugby Hate Latics and this is all our fault.
Anyway
If the person who copied my post is reading this, let em know I'm nothing more than a supporter
I have personally no involvement in the club although I do know numerous people who do work there, did work there etc.
Also people involved previously with the stadium management etc.
I know it won't mean anything and it will go in 1 ear and out the other as it doesn't fit the Anti Rugby narrative myth a lot of them Try to perpetuate etc. To give their anti rugby stance meaning.
At no point did I slag Whelan off, it seems I'm not being grateful for him giving us a place to play instead of ending up in Horwich (Must have forgot about the 11m or so the club got for CP and went towards the new stadium?).
I reiterate
The meaning of my post was only to explain that the changeover from being a Whelan play thing were balancing the books so to speak didn't matter, income from sponsorship didn't matter etc. To becoming a fully sustainable club were in the main the books have to be balanced was a real challenge.
This may seem like a dig, but Latics haven't got to that point yet and both owners have so far proved to not want to inject enough money to cover the losses they make each year on stadium and the team (losing 10million 2021/22 and possibly significantly more in 2022/23.
Up to Whelan selling the rugby we could afford to be a bit like that, and that's fine, until its not.
Whelan left the club 5 years after their relegation and the parachute payments stopped, Wise move? Would Latics trade those 20 years or so for stability now?
Each to their own
But it just was a comparison to show the pitfalls of being someone's play thing compared to being a sustainable business.
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Latest is the council should buy the stadium and give it to Latics, just like they "Gave" Robin Park and Taxpayers money to the rugby.
More revisionist made up clap trap.
The real truth doesn't fit the agenda again though
For those who do have a peek on said board, it is now debatable of they hate their own Supporters Club more than the Rugby now
Edit - when a few people have called for conciliation between the fans, a few of them have said they would but don't think we will as basically we hate them more than they hate us
Some (and I mean some who infect a few more) are really deluded.'"
When you've lived a lie for as long as some Latic fans, there's nothing to be gained from suddenly seeking out the truth.
Your original post was helpful and informative for those who really want to understand what's happening down at the DW, but the rest will continue to deny reality until they find they've no football club to get deluded about.
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| If they'd put 10% of their Premier League income aside for a "rainy day" they wouldn't be where they are now, never having naming rights, minuscule kit deals and now giving away their concourse income. It's an object lesson in how not to run a sports club.
Fair play to them, they punched massively above their weight for a decade and the FA Cup will always be in their history book but it was never sustainable for a club the size of Wigan
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| Quote ="apollosghost"If they'd put 10% of their Premier League income aside for a "rainy day" they wouldn't be where they are now, never having naming rights, minuscule kit deals and now giving away their concourse income. It's an object lesson in how not to run a sports club.
Fair play to them, they punched massively above their weight for a decade and the FA Cup will always be in their history book but it was never sustainable for a club the size of Wigan'"
Nail on the head there. DW was never going to leave them in the lurch in the same way that IL wouldn't with us, but businessmen who only care about the £££ will just walk away and most clubs can't afford to survive. We would be no different if IL and MD walk away tomorrow.
The PL has caused a lot of what goes on with clubs in the championship and lower. The money for getting there is huge and foreign owners come in to "chase the dream" and don't care about the mess they leave behind if it doesn't happen for them and they walk away.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Nail on the head there. DW was never going to leave them in the lurch '"
But he did - albeit as the unintended consequences of not fulfilling his words:
A year after stating that he would only sell the Latics to someone with their best interests at heart he flogged them to a bunch of gamblers that at best had no interest in their best interests and at worst were allegedly using the club to launder money or avoid tax in the far east. That was the point where it all turned sour - from having a frugal Yorkshireman holding the purse strings to a group that were very detached and left it to their appointees to sort stuff out.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"But he did - albeit as the unintended consequences of not fulfilling his words:
A year after stating that he would only sell the Latics to someone with their best interests at heart he flogged them to a bunch of gamblers that at best had no interest in their best interests and at worst were allegedly using the club to launder money or avoid tax in the far east. That was the point where it all turned sour - from having a frugal Yorkshireman holding the purse strings to a group that were very detached and left it to their appointees to sort stuff out.'"
He sold them, he didn't stop putting money and leave them in huge huge debt
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| Seems the sane ones on Latics Speyk are warming to the idea of Danson taking over. If that means the knuckledraggers stop attending and have no place to peddle their bile and bitterness than thats ok by me!
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Seems the sane ones on Latics Speyk are warming to the idea of Danson taking over. If that means the knuckledraggers stop attending and have no place to peddle their bile and bitterness than thats ok by me!'"
Bit of a familiar pattern emerging.
They didn't want anything to do with us in the 1990s until it became apparent that Whelan couldn't have his new stadium unless we sent into it with them. Then we were the knuckle-draggers for not wanting to share a modern facility and for clinging onto 'an outdated Victorian shed'.
And of course, when we finally did, they were so grateful.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Bit of a familiar pattern emerging.
They didn't want anything to do with us in the 1990s until it became apparent that Whelan couldn't have his new stadium unless we sent into it with them. Then we were the knuckle-draggers for not wanting to share a modern facility and for clinging onto 'an outdated Victorian shed'.
And of course, when we finally did, they were so grateful.'"
Didnt you say Latics fans had been living a myth?
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"It says that ticket office is closed today due to unforseen circumstances'"
I believe that the ticket staff have been sacked and given a small bonus to soften the blow.
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| Quote ="Jason65"I believe that the ticket staff have been sacked and given a small bonus to soften the blow.'"
Will our match be played next week if there is no staff ????
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| Quote ="jaws1"Will our match be played next week if there is no staff ????'"
Hope not
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| From what i have read both Wigan RL and the Latics will not have a ground to play in hence the poor performances
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Is this a trustworthy source Matty?
Doesn’t Danson own 49%?
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Is this a trustworthy source Matty?
Doesn’t Danson own 49%?
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| Queue the outrage
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Is this a trustworthy source Matty?
Doesn’t Danson own 49%?'"
Officially he still owns 25% when you google Mike Danson and us.
Unless you've heard different.
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| I think it would be fantastic news for the town if Danson gets Latics and is then on a course to owning both clubs at some point. People can like it or not but both clubs need each other and the constant issues at Latics don’t help the rugby club. We need somebody with both clubs interests at heart to take things forward.
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| Yes, surely only the most knuckle-headed of Latics fans would object.
Oh...
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| Just been down to get a ticket for the Wire game, office open, lady at the desk said they were just turning up day by day.
Hope for their sakes this gets sorted, must be an awful position to be in
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| Quote ="moto748"Yes, surely only the most knuckle-headed of Latics fans would object.
Oh...'"
There will be some and they can go and take a running jump. I’d love to think a takeover by Danson could clear out some empty headed dead wood from the Latics fan base and start a new era.
A pipe dream maybe but it shouldn’t be.
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| To be fair there'll be a few on our side as well, "Why's he spending all this money on them, should be signing Nathan Cleary...."
The fact we're in a salary capped sport will blissfully pass them by, one of the Warriors fb groups I'm on has been mortifyingly awful these past few weeks
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| To be fair, we could sign Nathan Cleary using the marquee rule.
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| Clock's ticking, on Latics Speak it's saying HMRC have put a winding up order in scheduled for end of July
Edit, winding up petition, not clued up on this stuff but it's apparently the stage before a winding up order
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