To be fair just watched his post match interview.

He was bang on the money in his summary.

I’ve seen enough.

For me it’s time we said “Thanks but no thanks” no Lammy. Everything about us is utterly appalling, attack, defence, communication. I know we’ve had injuries but we should be doing better and I can’t help but feel another coach would get a lot more from the team.

IL needs to put his hand into his pocket and invest heavily in this team also. New props, new loose, new hooker, new half (or halves if GW goes). I don’t have faith that Lam can select the right players and get the team playing as we all hoped we would.

Clearly you never watched Wakefield in 2006, we were a decent team who shouldn’t have been where we were. If you must invoke Wakefield team and god only knows why then the 2015 team was by far the worst we have put out in SL. Even then there have been numerous team in SL that were far worse than either of the teams you mention and this Wigan team may well be one.

It was as bad an audition as you could get in that first 40 minutes for sure and even with one of the worst packs in the league currently, we should still be able to raise some enthusiasm somewhere on the pitch. I like Lam and I hope things work out for him here but the players didn’t play like a group who are trying to get the temporary man in charge the job on a full time basis tonight.

just got back from the game i feel really refreshed after having a
good nap.

Take it you didnt go to London away or Huddersfield at home???

4 games in 13 days. That game 5 days after a game in torrential conditions. 3 wins in a row, job done.

London came with a plan, slow it down and they all knew what they were at. We didn't have a plan at all, particularly in the first half.

Our second try summed up the standard of the game. Lockers knocks on to give away the scrum, their player knocks on straight from the scrum to gift us a try. Just dire.

Glad of the 2 points but that was dire.
If Williams doesn't click we are totally and utterly useless.
This is the worst pack since 1980 and IL & KR are at the root of it.
We won't win again this month so apart from a up in Barcelona nowt to look forward to far quite a while.
For me tonight had the 2 worst teams in the comp on show. Appalling standard of play with zero individuality from any player. Coaches in general are killing the game complimented by incompetent management of the game & lack of talent in a very limited pool of players who are ambivalent to the state of the game.
I'm quite amazed that 9k people actually took the time to watch that dross.

Some kind of penance, maybe, for sins in a past life? That was painful. The gifted try probably swung the game; I think London would have fancied their chances of getting the points until then.

No, what I meant was it was the worst performance by a Wogan team since we played Wakefield (Cup - Halpenny/Richards no try) and Castleford (Where relegation actually seemed like a possibility).

There aren't many teams that have made an imprint on London in the first half.
They kept Warrington scoreless for 30 min and forced then to defend heavily almost all that period...perhaps the catalyst for the Wire collapse in the next two games.

There's no disgrace in struggling against London. If anything I'm peeved you got a try you didn't merit. I had Wigan down for less than 6 win. That's how good London are.

Got you.

I think you are seriously over egging London’s ability there and that’s from someone who’s team took a first game beating from them. They really are poor now and a properly functioning Wigan should have put a minimum of forty on them.

I deal with facts not fantasy...
I can butter you up and say Wigan are in better form than Wire, over the last 3 games your 100% and we're 33%.
London are good value for the first 40 min at Wigan.

Looking at the stats from the game, there was improvement from the forwards but Tautai and Navarette need to step it up.

Carries Metres Tackles
Bullock - 13. 94. 28
Flower - 12. 87. 25
Tautai - 7. 58. 14
Navarette- 11. 94. 18
O’Loughlin - 7. 56. 25
Smithies - 11. 62. 35
Greenwood - 17. 101. 28
Isa - 10. 61. 37

Aye, you crack on with that happy clapping mate.
Just don’t be moaning about attendances in the future.

Penance sins

Happy clapper or realistic?

If we don’t see the Harlem Globetrotters after 4 games in 13 days, I understand it. Ancient & Loyal is lost on most people on this forum. We’ll be fine and I for one will keep turning up.

How many minutes do you think Tautai played?

It’s not about being fine. It’s about the total lack of entertainment and people suggesting they don’t believe Lam is the fella to get us playing well AND winning.
I for one haven’t seen much to persuade me to go back to paying to watch Wigan RL, this season. Sod being loyal, I’ve got a family to look after and pay for. They aren’t entertained by the dean we’ve seen from the club for at least the last 2 seasons.

One of the things I always think about regarding a coach is, if the team has a real stinker of a first half, as yesterday, you hope and expect to see a considerable improvement in the second half after he has had a word at the break. We often saw that in the Wane era; without being transformed into something wonderful, we generally at least saw a bit more spring in the step.

However, the change against London was only from 'abysmal' to 'really poor'. That does not bode well.

Not sure, can you enlighten me?

I guess what people class as being entertained is always going to be a subjective one.

Take the Madge era for example. Some people found the tactics and approach boring, but I personally loved the intensity and enjoyed knowing we'd rip in every week too. The guaranteed intensity, taking pride in their own performance & executing the basics well is what kept me coming back every week.

Wanes team on the other hand might have been a bit slicker with the ball, but you'd never know if they'd be ar$ed turning up or not.

I'd rather see a 4 - 0 than a 36 -30 type game that's strewn with errors and lack of effort.

about 15-20