When he was tripped you mean?

For all his big talk pre-season about the maguire reign, and his tough regime, i don't think weve improved at all, but time will tell i suppose. There are only so many times we can 'get it right' and 'have a tough week in training'. Weve lost a lot of momentum since the Widnes game, but we were unlucky tonight!!

Turns out that call has bit him on the .

wane made many errors tonight and in my opinion he was the reason we lost. He was taken to school by a far more experienced coach.

Great lesson for him and will only make him stronger as long as he learns from it.

What a pointless thread this is.

I'm disappointed with tonight because it was a game we should have won. We just kept letting them back at us with stupid errors. Fair play to wire, they hung in and closed the game out. I can live with that though as they are a major threat.

I came off the ground really annoyed though that we've now lost 3 games out of 7. 2 of which have been at home. It shows now the error in being undercooked for the Huddersfield game and the selection mistakes against Widnes. 3 losses so far isn't good enough for me and imo has been of our own making. I know Shaun is on a massive learning curve and I truely hope he makes us successful. I just have doubts right now.

deffo

He didn't make anywhere near as many as some of the players. Player errors and indiscipline cost us the game tonight.

True, plus not properly punishing the Wire errors.

Said on the Eric thread, far too many schoolboy errors.

The same ref that could have sent Luaki off TWICE

Wane has failed already...useless defence and recruited useless defenders (Lauaki)..three defeats so far i'd be happy to sack him tomoz....shame he had to big up his defense!!

no it was Smith, Ganson allowed one in the Saints cats game, admittidly it was for saints.

Wrong man for the job from the start.

Its like listening to Brian Noble again after games.

Think he's doing a cracking job

Lets judge the guy at the end of the season yes?

Can do if you want, if he does a Leeds and wins us the grand final ill be the first to admit im wrong. Not that that means much lol.

His lack of professionalism scares me though, its been amatuer hour so far this season

Then again we lost the same fixtures against Huddersfield and Warrington last season, and unless I am mistaken the season before too (Cant say about Widnes as this is the first time we played them). He hasnt really done any worse than Maguire so far has he, especially when you consider we beat Catalan at home who destroyed us last season?

Was quite ed and annoyed when i posted that last night..still am tbh..just seems to me like the defense has completely gone and the Widnes shambles was unforgivable, the omens ain't looking good..certainly don't want him sacked, hoping he can't sort it out asap.

Not too much wrong with our defence last night (though I agree it was poor against Widnes & London). Monaghan's try was mainly due to Pat's injury, Briers was an intercept, the other was good play by Atkins with two tacklers on him. We looked a lot more solid up the middle than we have recently.

Agree with the solid in the middle, big hits and we fronted Warrington up, the break down is a massive problem though, no kind of organisation, headless chicken mode..and defense on the flanks looks even worse than last year.

At least he was fair and consistent, consistently crap for both sides. Some of the decisions on both sides were shocking. I always rated Silverwood and I now despair at the quality of refereeing.

There was some shocking onfield decision-making from Wigan. Those shots at goal were an embarrassing stupidity. It was obvious to the fans that we were struggling to hold them whenever they got near, so why not to those in charge? We needed to get properly ahead, not keep sticking our toe in front. On at least one occasion, a tap would have given us a third set of six on their line. What the hell was the captain, the coach - or whoever it was - thinking? Talk about letting them off the hook every time.

It's a good job Wire were only marginally less crap then we were. Otherwise we'd have been absolutely battered.

Not too much wrong IMO. Wigan gifted Wire 12 points i.e. Briers intercept (2nd time in two matches that Tommy has given away a try) followed by 3 silly penalties (don't blame the ref!). Apart from Wire's first try Wigan's defence was solid against a very capable attack. Warrington's game plan seemed to be to just stay solid and let Wigan make mistakes which they did.

Our kicking game still needs sorting. It is not good enough at this level. This includes both field kicks and grubbers. We just never seem to put defences on the back foot with the kicks.

Overall I feel more disappointed with that result than I did last year when Warrington beat us twice in the league. On both those occasions they were far better than Wigan and deserved the win. However last night Wigan were just the better team and should have won.

I was really frustrated to see us taking the two when we had then under the cosh. Two of the their tries came straight after we took the penalties and gave them field position.

It wasnt taking the 2 that was the problem, it was gifting them 12 points after taking them that was. In a game like that you take your points. What you dont then do is knock on first tackle and throw an interception.