bollox, Flower knew where his forearm was heading long before he looked away, and by "long" I mean fractions of a second.
Still, he didn't hurt nobody so what's the problem, I mean if O'loughlen can get away with what he did then Flower deserves an apology for the red really.
Does it seem like there's been more red cards for Wigan this season than usual....I dunno

Your right.... U dunno

Meh, as stated, I'll agree with Tony Smith and you can keep looking for Red Hall conspiracies and boo hoo-ing about nasty evil Wigan.

He lead with the elbow got a sending off,dont think it was intentional though but wont play again this season i feel.

He really doesn't. 2 red cards all year.

Seen it quite a few times now and still can't see a great deal in it. Patton was fine, and to his credit didn't make theatricals out of it. You see things just as bad most weeks. Luke Walsh's upending the other week was much more dangerous IMO. For me it was a forearm meant for the chest, from I tired frustrated player, and he will get what is deemed to be deserved. The usual piranhas, and mole-hill mountain makes are always looking for any excuse to say the word thug, ad nauseam. So let um!

It was not a great one and deserves 2-3 easily

never a fan of attacks on the kicker as he is a very vulnerable position. Mind you i hate any form of attack on prone or vulnerable players.

It has to be said that the Powell KO was a bad one IMO. Totally clumsy of Currie to put his knees in that area and the outcome of a full on knee smash to the temple must be worse than an elbow to the jaw.

I know the lad is crocked and will miss a good few games by the sound of it but this needs citing IMO.

Same goes for any player that does it (Sam T.....)

Must be said though that before the brain fart, Flower was in true beast mode. Making silly yards and scattering defenders left right and chelsea

Will be missed

What....the conspiracy is for Red Hall to ensure Wigan get more red cards than usual ??

I don't think Flower's challenge was anything like as bad as O'loughlens, and that is still playing, if Flower gets more than one or two games I think he's been unlucky.

Tony Smith can't say F'all, Flowers sending off didn't hinder Wire or injure Patten but they still lost, so what would be the point in bitching about the challenge........s'right, no point at all, so shaddap about Tony Smith

Hope you also noticed, I can't be d to find out

But happy to shoot your mouth off.... Fair enough..

Yep noticed and noted for future reference to any other tripe you may post

No you suggested there's a conspiracy to give Wigan lenient treatment at disciplinary hearings, and then admitted you know 'f'all' about Wigan's disciplinary record so maybe it's you who should 'shaddap'.

PS you reckon Flower deliberately attacked the player with a forearm/elbow to the neck but will be unlucky to get more than a game ban? Maybe if you didn't type such nonsense people would understand what you meant, yeah?

I bet Shaun Wane thinks BF is not guilty and i'm sure he will be at Red Hall this week with Flower to let them know he didn't mean it, and he also has an exemplary disciplinary record and has never attacked a players head......
1 game ban and back for the semi.

Well, Tony Smith didn't think it was a Red Card, so we can always use that as part of the defence.

I miss the good old days when Wire and Saints fans would come on here and try and troll us..

These days the amount of lower class dingles, lobby's and mouth breathing Cas fans is a sad reflection of things

Been charged with a Grade C offence - guidelines = 2/3 game ban if found guilty.

Unfortunately (for some fans of opposing clubs) burning at the stake is not on the recommended list of guilty punishments.

Ben Flower loves it. Trying to make retiring people his new gimmick. Should go full hogg and get sponsored by a retirement home. Maybe even give himself a darts-like nickname: Ben "The Career Destroyer" Flower.

So if he doesn't get the full 3 games the RFL are bent then

Sounds as though the offence has been downgraded from intentional to reckless, elbow strike off the ball intentional is E-F, elbow strike off the ball reckless is C-E.

We all assume the club will appeal, Wane making the point that his little flower hasn't punched anybody whilst unconscious this season, Result 1 game ban primed and ready for the semi's.

I'm assuming he's already used his early guilty plea this year?

Hopefully Sean O'Loughlin can replace him at prop.

I think he will have used it in June this year - when he almost got suspended for the second time ever but appealed. So I imagine this will now be his second ever suspension in about 8 years despite what is being said about his disciplinary record (granted his one other suspension was for 13 games.)

I know it's all a matter of opinions and respect others' opinions and i am Wigan through and through, however i stick with my original comment. I think he deliberately went in to hurt Patton now whether he caught him on accident is a side issue for me. He went in late on purpose, he wasn't committed and tried to leave a mark on the lad. He should get a lengthy ban for the intent alone. It was off the ball. There is a difference to hitting somebody hard in a tackle and hitting somebody hard when they are vulnerable but he knows all about that. Sh!!t sticks.

No, it's been graded as C, it can't have been "downgraded" because there was no previous grade to change.

How did you work that out? Have I missed several days when BF was charged with a grade E, had his hearing where it got reduced to C??

In my world which I believe is the real one, today is Monday and he has been charged with a grade C by the review panel. I believe the disciplinary have the right to either upgrade or downgrade if they see fit but that won't happen until tomorrow.