Hampshire isn't tough enough for SW.
If your tough and try your in even if you are incapable of making a break - Isa being the classic example of this. How many games has he played and how many breaks has he made? How Wigan fans have written Isa off? Why aren't Wigan fans writing Isa off because he has had far more opportunities than Hampshire and has done jack shoite so far this season.

SW's general attitude towards backs was mildly funny in the beginning but now I find it quite alarming particularly if we bring in Carney yet another Southern Hemisphere player with zip between his ears but who will run through a brick wall.

Gregson looks a decent sort but has zero speed and offers very little to the halfs particularly with Smith there as well. They must be the slowest pairing in our history but SW seems totally oblivious.
Wakefield if they can tackle are nailed on for Sunday and unless we get some players back Cas will fancy their chances next week. Could be a profitable double.

I will never know what the truth is but the obverse is that those calling for him to included must have been asking for somebody else to be dropped. To hear Wigan fans demanding that the then England halves be moved aside seemed a bit perverse. We would have been negligent not to have tied Smith and Williams down to long term contracts but the upshot was that Rocky was never going to get the chance he craved with us. I have no doubt that he will become a competent professional but at this point he has not earned the right to set his own terms. Wane does not rate him, and that may be his weakness as a manager, but at the end of the day he makes the decisions. If I was Rocky I would accept that he has been the victim of circumstance and look to do what I think is best for myself, which is probably to go to where I could play in my favoured position.

Yep, he could still be recalled now, if Wane wanted to; instead he prefers to play Gregson in the position, which seems to send a clear message.

So if everyone is so unhappy with Wigan who twisted his arm to sign that three year contract only a few months ago.

That I don't understand.

What the f*ck are you on about? Isa's played what, 5 games for us? and probably 4 of them off the bench!

Honestly, Hampshire's fan boys are f*cking unbearable. He's so overrated on here.

I rate Ryan highly, on the basis of having watched him all through his junior days and seeming him shine in one of the best youth teams in the UK.

You brought his dad into it, not me.

My assumption was that, as usual, a money-grubbing agent would be behind his desire to leave. You are aware that it is not in an agent's interest to have a settled player? But if his dad is involved as well, that will be a much harder thing for Wigan to overcome.

If Ryan is making his own decisions, then he should be advised to chill out and look to the future. Powell is no guru and Cas are not Wigan.

I don't understand this massive Hampshire love in with the Wigan fans.Hes never done it for the first team and I really don't believe that every other member on this forum watches the juniors.
I have always had big hopes for him off what other members of this forum have said but he's never once impressed me.
It seems like it's time for him and a lot of fans to move on.

Richardhead I was exaggerating to prove a point.
Get a grip you soft lad.
It's ok to knock Hampshire because sir SW thinks he is shoite but to criticise anyone who SW "rates" is sacrilege . Get a grip and get your own thoughts and opinions.
SW doesn't walk on water he is human and will make mistakes. His mantra is toughness which is great but will only get you you so far. Our style of play is appalling and maybe just maybe someone who is different and who has pace just might and I state just might be the answer.
You lap up Smith and Gregson at halfback good luck to you but it won't work and it won't bring in the crowds.
By the way Ias I believe has started most matches. Tell me what is so good about him that SW can't wait tell us about his injuries but says jack shoite about Williams being injured?

I don't think it's a "massive love in" to prefer trying him over an untried academy second rower or a loose forward who is much more valuable in his proper position.

He didn't sign a new 3 year contract Matty, he signed an extension to his existing contract to make up the 3 years.

Ok, read the detail wrong. The question still stands though, why would he sign if so unhappy?

Yes I did bring his dad and his agent into it, but only in the context of your assumption that somebody was giving him bad advice, it would be a poor show if his dad didn't show concern for the future and well being of his son, but that's as far as it goes and I'm sure his agent Andy Clark also has his best interest at heart, perhaps instead of questioning Ryan's motives in all this you might look closer to home inside the club.
Not sure where Powell fits into this, all he did was give the lad a chance with no guarantees, so I would say it looks like he is looking to the future, and It's plainly obvious Cas are no Wigan so why compare them.

If Rocky had not signed the extension he would not have been allowed to leave on loan.

I thought NGB4C was a shoe in for biggest prat of the year award, but you've given him some serious competition.

There is also a view that in dragging rocky back for a couple of games will disrupt the benefits of his year long loan. Cas will be less likely to play him if Wigan drag him back every few matches.

Maybe, just maybe, Wigan are looking slightly longer term than the next two to three matches.

My thoughts too...

I hadn't thought of that and there could be some merit of your view. I would love to think that you are correct but I think too many bridges have been burned for it to be true.

Do you know what a paragraph is? You illiterate spunk bubble!

Get my own opinion? I've literally just given you my opinion, that Hampshire, while clearly talented, is seriously overrated on here.

Regarding Isa, he started the first 3 games before getting injured and missing the next 6, returning to start against Warrington. That's 4 out of a possible 10 games he's played in. I think I'm right in saying that doesn't qualify as "most" games.

Shrugs and gets on with life.

I certainly think Wigan take a longer-term view of these things than most fans. But as the Yorkshire bloke who's been posting on this thread seems to imply, I suspect there a determination in the Ryan camp to get him away from Wigan. And in that circumstance, I imagine that - transfer fee permitting (and it would have to be a good one) - Wigan will reluctantly let him go.

There are a huge number of assumptions on this thread. Some may or may not be true, the truth is we as fans simply don't know.

As clarified earlier we have the option to recall RH if there is a significant injury to a half or full back. I would have thought the ST injury wouldn't count as that was known before he left. That leaves GW, Wane has said that GW could be back next week or it could be another 4. In the terms of the loan agreement does that count as significant? Again we don't know whether we can recall him or not at this stage.

That's true AND there are two sides to an agreement. Would Cas have specified that they have to have their first choice #6 and #1 available before Hampshire can return. At present both Dorn and Roberts are out, Hampshire is playing at #1 and they have an young player at #6.

I'm not really implying anything I have no idea what Ryan's or Wigan' intentions are and nor am I privvy to his or Wgan's future plans, all I have tried to do is explain to you your assumptions and your speculation regarding him are off the mark based on the little knowledge in my possession.

So you have no idea what Ryan's going to do or what Wigan are going to do, but you still think I'm wrong ... ???

Yeah, okay.

I neither know nor care about anything Wigan squire nor can I predict the future of Ryan Hampshire, but I clearly know more than what you do which is painfully obvious by the way you keep contradicting yourself.
I was simply trying in a polite sort of way to let you know that you were clueless with your assumptions of the situation, you obviously can't comprehend this or maybe your just looking to be awkward, either way were done I get no pleasure from trying to hammer a nail into a knot in a plank of wood.