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| Quote ="meliferra"www.runningrugby.com/accounts-funding-and-financial-services/broncos-ready-to-embrace-new-life-in-championship/'"
Few things stand out:
Quote Sponsorship has been a bit of a challenge after dropping down a league'"
Sponsorship was a problem long before relegation..........
Quote so we need to look at the target audience and the way that we price the product in '"
This points to the club having control over pricing, at least in the "posh" seats.....can anyone confirm that this was the case last year or not? if not, then maybe the general admission revenues might be being kept by the club too....?Are we paying RENT
Quote the club will be spending very close to the Championship salary cap of £1 million'"
The question is, how long will Hughes "Guilt" make him keep us professional should we not step back up in 2015?
Quote almost halved from the average of 4,229 at the Stoop in 2006'"
4,860 was the 2006 average......slightly worse than halved.
Quote we hope to at least match the crowd numbers we had last year, if not try to grow them.'"
This is almost as being ruthless next year on the park.....but then again, if "nothing has changed" and AK keeps the ticketing and residuals, who cares? If we are instead, now paying rent and keeping the Revenue, then I expect the club to go into overdrive trying to get the lapsed fans back.
Positive article making all the right noises though....thanks for the link Milf
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
4,860 was the 2006 average......slightly worse than halved.
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2006 average depends on what you count as the attendance for the RU/RL double header v. Huddersfield. Using a reasonably realistic figure of 4,500, the season average works out at 4,360.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"2006 average depends on what you count as the attendance for the RU/RL double header v. Huddersfield. Using a reasonably realistic figure of 4,500, the season average works out at 4,360.'"
realistic and published are at odds here. The club were happy to use the 12k in their end of year comments in 2006. 2,800 was the averagefor hudds before that dh by the way
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| Quote ="gutterfax"realistic and published are at odds here.'" Of course. But you seem to have used the club's make-believe figure to support your argument. Quote The club were happy to use the 12k in their end of year comments in 2006. 2,800 was the averagefor hudds before that dh by the way'" Indeed, Hudds attendances were always dire, including the dismal 1,800 near the end of our stay at The Valley. Partly because Hudds brought so few but also, methinks, because Hudds matches were invariably boring to watch.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Of course.
But you seem to have used the club's make-believe figure to support your argument .'"
I have used the published figure that the club were happy to use in 2006. Either way, take the dh away or not, the reduction of our fan base has gone swimmingly since.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I have used the published figure that the club were happy to use in 2006. Either way, take the dh away or not, the reduction of our fan base has gone swimmingly since.'"
Allow me.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
Positive article making all the right noises though....thanks for the link Milf'"
Sorry, forgot to say that I agree with that.
Article doesn't underestimate the difficulty of getting back into SL.
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| Question why would a season ticket holder want to buy into the present scheme which links into Barnet FC? Would it not be better to have a season ticket that covers only the RL games?
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| Quote ="daftdad"Question why would a season ticket holder want to buy into the present scheme which links into Barnet FC? Would it not be better to have a season ticket that covers only the RL games?'"
I thought members could pay a 2 quid a month charge in October, November, December and January before returning to full ticketed access during the season. If you cancel your membership, you get stung with an admin fee again when you renew.
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| but why pay any membership for something I do not want other than to watch RL?
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| Quote ="daftdad"but why pay any membership for something I do not want other than to watch RL?'"
Because that's the way the landlord does business and let's face it......in terms of London broncos, we weren't in a strong position when it came to negotiations.
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| Quote ="daftdad"but why pay any membership for something I do not want other than to watch RL?'"
The Broncos membership only covers Broncos games. Not sure I really understand the point tbh.
You wont get into a Barnet game with a Broncos membership, just like I wont get into a Bronco game with my Barnet membership.
Whether you choose to pay monthly as a membership scheme or treat it as a season ticket and pay a year up front makes little difference. It gives you access to Broncos games plus 15% off merchandise and tickets if you choose to bring others along.
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| Quote ="meliferra"The Broncos membership only covers Broncos games. Not sure I really understand the point tbh.
You wont get into a Barnet game with a Broncos membership, just like I wont get into a Bronco game with my Barnet membership.
Whether you choose to pay monthly as a membership scheme or treat it as a season ticket and pay a year up front makes little difference. It gives you access to Broncos games plus 15% off merchandise and tickets if you choose to bring others along.'"
So have they changed the terms that were present when we first moved to Barnet?
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| Back to this again, it's same discussion we had last year, membership is basically a way of spreading payments over 12 months, does it mean paying less than on the day over the season, if the answer is yes then who cares what they call it.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Back to this again, it's same discussion we had last year, membership is basically a way of spreading payments over 12 months, does it mean paying less than on the day over the season, if the answer is yes then who cares what they call it.'"
Michael,
Give the decline in the number of Season Ticket holders at the club, I believe that the way in which tickets are promoted and packaged is an important part of attracting more purchasers. Daftdad is perfectly within his rights, as a previous ST holder to inquire if anything is different from the first year at the Hive.
It may not suit your agenda of thinking everything at the club is brilliant, but the question of memberships, administration charges, off season monthly payments and the like are of interest to some of the remaining fans. After all, in the article that this very thread promotes it states that they want to attract no less fans than 2014......even more if they can. Pricing will play a part in this, because whilst the occasional fan will walk up and pay a score to watch us play Wigan, Sheffield isn't quite the same draw......and the same can be said for the number of members we manage to retain.
Cracking new website....Steve Devonshire, one of those so shoddily treated by both Hughes and his Lacky ,MacKay is responsible....shows what you can achieve with passionate and knowledgeable people in place....I fully expect more good things to come out of the club in the next few weeks. COYB!
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| Quote ="daftdad"So have they changed the terms that were present when we first moved to Barnet?'"
Nope, you just never understood it the first time.
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| Quote ="meliferra"Nope, you just never understood it the first time.'" Well in that case I will do what I did last season not buy a season ticket and choose my games.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Well in that case I will do what I did last season not buy a season ticket and choose my games.'"
Your absolutely right that you wont be buying a non-existent season ticket.
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| Quote ="meliferra"Your absolutely right that you wont be buying a non-existent season ticket.'" Yes you are correct along with a few thousand who did the same last year. Keep dreaming.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Yes you are correct along with a few thousand who did the same last year. Keep dreaming.'"
Ticket sales aren't our problem anyway.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Yes you are correct along with a few thousand who did the same last year. Keep dreaming.'"
Didn't I read somewhere that the 2013 average attendance was 2200? In which case you're trying to tell me nobody went to a game at the Hive ( I guess you're not far off but the number was never negative ).
Those who want to go will go, those that don't will whinge and find excuses to justify their position. Makes no odds to me whether you go or not and it's purely down to you as to whether you see one, two or twenty games. As long as you are happy with your decision that's all that matters.
I just like to know your decision was made on fact and not prejudice. At the moment I suspect it's the later, but hey it's your loss if you are missing games based on misinformation.
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