Looking forward to seeing wes

Welcome Wes to the crazy world of the Bronco's. Hope you stay is enjoyable.

Good news this and other signings. Might even make the long trek to and from The Hive bearable for a few games at least.

2015 ticketing has been announced then has it?

Care to elaborate on what this is driving at?
Second thoughts don't, as I can feel a repeat performance coming on.

You gonna buy a ticket then gutters

Well....with the positively gushing level of "good news" flowing from the club at present, I would have thought 2015's pricing and venue for home games would have been confirmed.......maybe with the helpful RFL explanation of how everything works next year. A quick glance around the country shows that the majority of the 24 clubs who will contest the 888 have already started selling tickets and that only 1 has yet to confirm its home ground ground for the season......I suspect "negotiations are ongoing" which is strange really given we were told it was a 2 year deal.




3 for the Bradford game Michael, Icelandic volcanic activity permitting. Other than that, I will wait to see what wondrous offers are available in regards to membership of the Hive, the fiscal benefit to being a member in regards to the shop, what from the shop is available for on-line purchasing and how much AK wants to "clip the ticket" with regard to postage to the foot of the world. There is also the small thing of where my "investment" would go...to the club or to the landlord who cares little for us or the game we follow. (other than clipping the ticket on cup final day as an over-spill car park facility)

I was right, nothing new to see here.

You really don't get it do you. Clubs announce when they are moving, not when they are staying. Point me to a news story from another club that says 'We will not be moving next season'.

As for tickets? It's a membership so there is no need to advertise a season ticket. Join when you like, leave when you want. I guess you're looking for another news story saying 'We are not selling season tickets'.

Until I see a credible story saying Broncos are leaving (despite telling NYT that they are staying at the Hive ) or that direct debits are being cancelled because the Hive are no longer running ticket sales then this is just hot air.

The tennancy arrangement between the broncos and the hive that ran for 2014 will not be the same as the one in place for 2015. The club (and RFL) were informed of this in July. I would expect the 185 broncos members would be told this before Octobers cash is taken

Then I suggest you give it a rest until then and see if the membership scheme does come to an end. As members pay in advance then we will know in 3 weeks time.

Yet another thread taken off topic

Sorry, probably my fault because I opened a window by suggesting that our signings might be enough to persuade me to make a few trips to Harrow next year.

Quote ="Andover Boy"Despite some very positive signs on the recruitment front, I can still only see a Championship side gaining promotion if a SL side in the middle 8 has suffered a financial meltdown on the scale that we have this year or has the worst injury list in history. On that last point, I wonder whether there will be any restrictions on loan players for the middle 8 in that period?'" So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season. Quote " ... the ongoing review into the operational rules relating to dual-registration that will be completed in time for the start of the 2015 season."'" www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction Whoops! Off topic again!

Quote ="Andover Boy"Despite some very positive signs on the recruitment front, I can still only see a Championship side gaining promotion if a SL side in the middle 8 has suffered a financial meltdown on the scale that we have this year or has the worst injury list in history. On that last point, I wonder whether there will be any restrictions on loan players for the middle 8 in that period?'" So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season. Quote " ... the ongoing review into the operational rules relating to dual-registration that will be completed in time for the start of the 2015 season."'" www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction Whoops! Off topic again!

Quote ="BroncOnIon"So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction Whoops! Off topic again!'" And people wonder why the game is seen as a "local" pastime rather than a national sport? Incredible.......relegation from the Championship this year closes the door on access to the 'MILLION POUND GAME'........surely heads will roll for this blunder.

Quote ="BroncOnIon"So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction Whoops! Off topic again!'" And people wonder why the game is seen as a "local" pastime rather than a national sport? Incredible.......relegation from the Championship this year closes the door on access to the 'MILLION POUND GAME'........surely heads will roll for this blunder.

So then gutters that will be no you will not be buying s ticket then.


So come on font of all knowledge the club have told the rfl what exactly

That the owners of the hive don't want year 2 of the agreement they were bribed to take this ywar

Where is yr evidence, what bribe?

The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener?
As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes as well as countless other accurate information.
Believe what makes you happy Michael.......

Quote ="gutterfax"The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener? As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes ... '" Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House: wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails Company No. 05322378 wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1

Quote ="gutterfax"The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener? As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes ... '" Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House: wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails Company No. 05322378 wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1

So a commercial deal with an option for a second year. A deal that solves a dilemma for the RFL. A bribe tends to suggest an illegal hidden payment. Where was it hidden?

Quote ="BroncOnIon"Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House: wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails Company No. 05322378 wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1'" Nope.....I have a breakdown of where every penny was wasted at the club. How little was spent on Marketing....how much we received each year from the RFL, the incredible amount spent on "administration". I can assure you, the arrangement that Blake Solly thrashed out with AK to get us to fulfil our 2014 fixtures in SL was sweetened with a "marketing budget" and if you look carefully at the releases at the time, was rolled out as a 1 year deal with a 2nd year option....the option has not been taken by AK/The Hive and therefore the club is having to re-negotiate the deal. I admitted that my "homeless" comment in the thread about this earlier in the year was a "worst case" scenario, but chances are if we stay at the Hive we will be paying the same rent (or more) than we did at The Stoop. A bribe/an incentive/a sweetner......call it what you want SR. The fact is it was used to get us into a home for 13 more games before the licence expired.

Quote ="BroncOnIon"Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House: wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails Company No. 05322378 wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1'" Nope.....I have a breakdown of where every penny was wasted at the club. How little was spent on Marketing....how much we received each year from the RFL, the incredible amount spent on "administration". I can assure you, the arrangement that Blake Solly thrashed out with AK to get us to fulfil our 2014 fixtures in SL was sweetened with a "marketing budget" and if you look carefully at the releases at the time, was rolled out as a 1 year deal with a 2nd year option....the option has not been taken by AK/The Hive and therefore the club is having to re-negotiate the deal. I admitted that my "homeless" comment in the thread about this earlier in the year was a "worst case" scenario, but chances are if we stay at the Hive we will be paying the same rent (or more) than we did at The Stoop. A bribe/an incentive/a sweetner......call it what you want SR. The fact is it was used to get us into a home for 13 more games before the licence expired.

If TK freely admitted to receiving a marketing budget then he didn't do a very good job of keeping the bribe a secret. Unless of cause it wasn't a bribe but a marketing budget.
The question is where is your evidence that this marketing budget is the reason for a possible renegotiation of Broncos stay because so far I've seen nothing to back this up. Don't you think poor attendances and relegation might have more to do with the relationship between Hive and Broncos?

Yep...because the other 13 stadiums owners all received the same "marketing budget" didn't they?


The Marketing Budget/sweetener/bribe/incentive...call it whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy.....this PAYMENT was used to get the deal across the line.......




I never said it was the reason for the renegotiation. I simply said AK/The Hive weren't happy to continue with 2014's arrangement into 2015. Relegation and crowds were bolted on when the first deal was done by the way....that's why the deal was for ONE YEAR.

The calls for "proof/evidence" are pointless BTW. I have (on my own and with information leaked to me) been pretty much spot on at every stage of the deconstruction of the club since 2010....believe what makes you sleep better.....a 1,250 average paying at the gate with his bars/cafes etc making the residuals hasn't floated AK's boat in 2014......2015's attendances will be half that and he wants more than this year has delivered.....you don't need a calculator to figure out that somebody will be paying more money next year....and it won't be AK!

Strangely enough it was a commercoal deal, one year with a second year option. The property world is littered with 20 year deals with breaks at 5 years. Strangely your security is only 5 years depending on how things go for landlord and tenant. Same.here and not.sure anyone on this site was unaware that might be the case. How many player deals are announced as 2 years when actually 1 plus an option. I have not seen any evidence the terms of the deal have been broken and your informant has not suggested this.

Not sure why the calls for proof are pointless. Make a statement and someone is quite entitled to ask for the evidence. Say there's no need and suddenly people get suspicious you don't have any actual evidence.

GF can only claim to be spot on through sheer volume of crap meaning some of the has to stick.

I think he has Broncos moving and stayng covered. He had Brincos. finishing this year and also has them finishing next year.

I believe he claimed Broncos lease for their old training facilities continued for another year but this was shown to be false. There is plenty of assumption and misinformation in GFs posts based on a lack of fact if we can be bothered to go through the thousands of posts.
The reason GF does not like the call for evidence is because he has none so repeatedly comes back with interpretation of hearsay until actually believes his own stories.
The claim that TK is after more money next year than he received this is just another imaginary fact that GF has evolved.