Good Giants performance today. Could easily have been a win except for Hodgson getting caught, Aspinwall dropping pass with line at Mercy and the interception.

Have to say though the ref was an absolute joke. this man should not be a first class ref.

You could also of been blown away but for 2 tries bombed by donald and 1 each by burgess and watkins lets tell the whole story shall we!!


Agree re-uncle alibert though shocking!!

Very true but Leeds Pack were rolled over today and the game was up for grabs.

Either poor by Leeds or a good giants display

Leeds didnt look like a "champion" side today even the leeds fans who I was sat with today said they haven't played well at all and where lucky to get the win.

I've just driven passed Carnegie and it's bedlam

It looks like the entire South Stand has turned up for the Post match Refs appraisal.






edit:

Match officials dept is based at Carnegie!

Joke ruiner.

this is a joke right?? most of the game was played deep in hudds half

Is that why we couldn't see too much action in the first half? And saw quite a bit in the second?

Do you need a new prescription for your glasses?

Yes.

the game stats are up on the leeds board. which makes for interesting reading. shows leeds meter gains were far bigger than hudds and you guys made a lot more tackles.

No surprise Leeds made more total metres given how much more ball they had. The metres per carry stats though show we made more yards per carry than Leeds.

Stats are easily twisted to try and make a point, aren't they.

no not really. they are cold hard facts about what players do in a game.

But they do not tell the whole story, do they, which provides the opportunity for people to use them in a misleading fashion.

20 errors by us, where did those errors occur? What was the tackle number when the errors occured? Not all the information is there to provide a full insight into what the stats mean.

So in essence, you're wrong.

no im not

i take your point to an extent but in regards to tackles made, yards made, number of carries it gives you a good idea of who's pulling their weight, who's not?

so for the info im after im right.

The post I made, and which you disagreed with, was that stats are easily twisted to try and make a point. This also holds true for things like tackles made, yards made etc because again you don't have all the salient information. Was a particular player only on the field for 60mins and another one on for 80mins, for example. That would clearly affect the stats, so unless you have all of the information the stats can be misleading.


Metres per carry is just as useful a statistical tool than total metres, if not more so, but you only chose to highlight one to make a particular point. Thus being misleading with your stats. EOS.

you would have to be thick not to take those things into account with the info you have. i did watch the game the stats are from.

i find the stats are a good indication of how a player is going. what i disagreed with was that i was using them in such a way as you suggested.

Unless you provide all the information then you are misleading with your stats. That was what you did. EOS.

no i didnt, i said the stats were up on the leeds board and they were interesting to me. you read into it what you wanted. thats your problem not mine

No, you harped on about metres made and conveniently ommited metres per carry, thus using the stats to paint a certain picture. Had you included metres per carry your supposed point would not have been anywhere near as significant as you were implying. And, as you said, you'd have to be thick not to take as much relevant information as possible into account.

if you read all that into it as i said before thats your problem not mine. all i said was leeds made more meters and hudds made more tackles. which is still a fact.

but im sure you will keep coming back

Yes, I will seeing as it's the Huddersfield forum and you've been caught out.

As I said, stats are easily twisted. Leeds gains far bigger than Huddersfield? Not in metres per carry son, not in metres per carry.

think someone famous once said "there are lies, damn lies and then statistics."

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Quote ="elyob"think someone famous once said "there are lies, damn lies and then statistics."'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damn ... statistics Disraeli, Mark Twain and now you!