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| Grix is a weak link IMO. I don't think he'd get a starting spot in any of the other top 6 sides.
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| Refusing to run the ball back with any heart or aggression every single game is not being picky.
we lose massive metres every game as he waits for his wingers to come for the pass or if there's nobody he runs sideways looking for the soft tackle.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"Refusing to run the ball back with any heart or aggression every single game is not being picky.
we lose massive metres every game as he waits for his wingers to come for the pass or if there's nobody he runs sideways looking for the soft tackle.'"
Cannot disagree, but he is here for the next 2 years so more of the same I guess. Robinson is another who is a big disappointment, best days gone???
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"Grix is a weak link IMO. I don't think he'd get a starting spot in any of the other top 6 sides.'"
This.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"Refusing to run the ball back with any heart or aggression every single game is not being picky.
we lose massive metres every game as he waits for his wingers to come for the pass or if there's nobody he runs sideways looking for the soft tackle.'"
think this goes back to nathan brown days , brett hodgson did the same but boy could be setup tries.
personally i like to see the hard running full backs like hardaker and reilly.
grix is too small and sometimes can lose the ball on contact or gets dragged backwards
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"Grix is a weak link IMO. I don't think he'd get a starting spot in any of the other top 6 sides.'"
Have to agree
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| Quote ="Ambergiant"Cannot disagree, but he is here for the next 2 years so more of the same I guess. Robinson is another who is a big disappointment, best days gone???'"
Are we paying the price of having a 'leadership group'?
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| Quote ="brearley84"think this goes back to nathan brown days , brett hodgson did the same but boy could be setup tries.
personally i like to see the hard running full backs like hardaker and reilly.
grix is too small and sometimes can lose the ball on contact or gets dragged backwards'"
Brett Hodgson is smaller than Scott Grix.
Don't you know that size doesn't matter?
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| I think it's very easy, due to the fact he was such a fantastic player, to forget the mistakes that Brett made - especially under the high ball and I remember plenty of times he was dragged backwards.
If we can find a better full back (as with any position) than Grix then I would fully agree with replacing him but I remain to be convinced that we have anyone in the squad who is better than him as a full back. For me, neither Murphy or Connor have taken their opportunities when Gix has been out.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"Refusing to run the ball back with any heart or aggression every single game is not being picky.
we lose massive metres every game as he waits for his wingers to come for the pass or if there's nobody he runs sideways looking for the soft tackle.'"
This is called 'team tactics' not a lack of heart or aggression.
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| Hodgson was 3rd in try assists for our team 2009/2010 seasons.
2011/2012 grix was 3rd/2nd in the list those seasons
but 2013/2014 seasons he has not been anywhere near the top for try assists? have we changed tactics since then or has grix gone backwards in this area
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| I for one would welcome a contract extension for Anderson.
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| It will be accounced in the morning anderson has signed a new deal ...
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| Calling Grix's gigantic fear of ever being tackled 'team tactics' is a joke to be honest! I don't care what you think of Grix but what he does when he catches the ball never benefits us, apart from against a dire Wakey side.
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| Quote ="FeeFiFoFum"Calling Grix's gigantic fear of ever being tackled 'team tactics' is a joke to be honest! I don't care what you think of Grix but what he does when he catches the ball never benefits us, apart from against a dire Wakey side.'"
So you seriously think Anderson selects a full back whose scared on tackling? You honestly think that Anderson watches how Grix catches the ball and waits for his wingers and thinks that's not what I asked him to do and then still selects him as first choice full back? There's only one joke on this thread...
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| Never suggested Anderson doesn't tell him to do, I just provided a reason as to why he might?
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| Quote ="FeeFiFoFum"Never suggested Anderson doesn't tell him to do, I just provided a reason as to why he might?'"
Interesting. So Anderson adopts tactics to accommodate Grix's inclusion? The inference being he either sees Grix as being a key part of his side or that he has no confidence at all in Connor or Murphy at full back. Either way that would be bad news for those wanting Scott dropped.
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| Quote ="FeeFiFoFum"Calling Grix's gigantic fear of ever being tackled 'team tactics' is a joke to be honest! I don't care what you think of Grix but what he does when he catches the ball never benefits us, apart from against a dire Wakey side.'"
It was very rare for Bodgy to ever run the ball back as well. So it is a tactic we have been using for a long time.
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| Quote ="FeeFiFoFum"Calling Grix's gigantic fear of ever being tackled 'team tactics' is a joke to be honest! I don't care what you think of Grix but what he does when he catches the ball never benefits us, apart from against a dire Wakey side.'"
Grix has been one of our top 4 tackle busters for the last 4 seasons. Quite an achievement for someone who is scared of being tackled, no?
There are many reasons why the team may adopt a tactic of dropping the wingers back to receive a dump off from the FB.
It could be because Smurph and Jerry are very effective runners. It could be because Grix is our best support runner (he used to be the only player who would follow Fuey even though everyone must've known he was likely to offload) and so he is better following those two in case they offload. More than likely though it's because he is a much better passer from dummy half than either Smurph or Jerry and so gives us an extra option over than a scoot as second tackle when taking the ball out of our own half.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"Grix has been one of our top 4 tackle busters for the last 4 seasons. Quite an achievement for someone who is scared of being tackled, no?
There are many reasons why the team may adopt a tactic of dropping the wingers back to receive a dump off from the FB.
It could be because Smurph and Jerry are very effective runners. It could be because Grix is our best support runner (he used to be the only player who would follow Fuey even though everyone must've known he was likely to offload) and so he is better following those two in case they offload. More than likely though it's because he is a much better passer from dummy half than either Smurph or Jerry and so gives us an extra option over than a scoot as second tackle when taking the ball out of our own half.'"
Don't talk rugby sense- it causes confusion in the ranks. Ahhh who am I kidding- they just ignore what they don't understand.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"Grix has been one of our top 4 tackle busters for the last 4 seasons. Quite an achievement for someone who is scared of being tackled, no?
There are many reasons why the team may adopt a tactic of dropping the wingers back to receive a dump off from the FB.
It could be because Smurph and Jerry are very effective runners. It could be because Grix is our best support runner (he used to be the only player who would follow Fuey even though everyone must've known he was likely to offload) and so he is better following those two in case they offload. More than likely though it's because he is a much better passer from dummy half than either Smurph or Jerry and so gives us an extra option over than a scoot as second tackle when taking the ball out of our own half.'"
That's a great post !!
when at the games and people are screaming at Grix to 'run hard, run straight ' etc and then they moan when he passes it ! i've said to many people have you ever thought it's a tactic, a coach's order to do it rather than Grix actually choosing not to himself ??.
Or maybe they want him to run in hard, get smashed, drop the ball etc so they can then have a go at him for that !
Like i've always said 1st carry is all about safety and if the safest way is to pass to a winger to run it in hard for 1st collision then that's fine with me. If it is a weakness of Grixy then surely that is good coaching to not have him doing it in the 1st place ?
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| l have long been a fan of Grix, in the first years he had to change position a lot, but in my humble opinion he is the best FB we have at this time.
Further comments l will keep till seasons end, and the 5 to stay, and 5 to go post.
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| Quote ="FeeFiFoFum"Calling Grix's gigantic fear of ever being tackled 'team tactics' is a joke to be honest! I don't care what you think of Grix but what he does when he catches the ball never benefits us, apart from against a dire Wakey side.'"
Oh dear, the only joke on here is your crap opinion
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| Quote ="Unbeliever"So you seriously think Anderson selects a full back whose scared on tackling? You honestly think that Anderson watches how Grix catches the ball and waits for his wingers and thinks that's not what I asked him to do and then still selects him as first choice full back? There's only one joke on this thread...'"
Spot on, some folk just haven't got a clue
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"Grix has been one of our top 4 tackle busters for the last 4 seasons. Quite an achievement for someone who is scared of being tackled, no?
There are many reasons why the team may adopt a tactic of dropping the wingers back to receive a dump off from the FB.
It could be because Smurph and Jerry are very effective runners. It could be because Grix is our best support runner (he used to be the only player who would follow Fuey even though everyone must've known he was likely to offload) and so he is better following those two in case they offload. More than likely though it's because he is a much better passer from dummy half than either Smurph or Jerry and so gives us an extra option over than a scoot as second tackle when taking the ball out of our own half.'"
Good to see some people with a bit of sense on here
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