Both players were chasing the ball- hanbury kicked it, ferres was trying to prevent a try being scored- pushed him as hanbury was going to kick the ball hardly "starting it".
Punching hanbury was an unnecessary thing to do- but hanbury might think twice before trying it on again!
I've no problem with the red card for ferres or the ban he will receive. But hanbury wasn't without fault.

But doesn't show the whole incident.

It does show Ferres initiating the incident though. He did shove Hanbury over.

Chasing the ball....
Something similar happened to brough later on as he was chasing his kick- brough didn't try to start a fight by pushing the player though.

Only person in the wrong is Ferres in my view. A shove doesn't deserve a punch to the face. Shoving happens all the time.
It is disgraceful and if someone had whacked one of our players because of a shove I'd be shouting 'off' and be hoping for a big ban.

That punch could have lost us a top 4 spot and shattered the confidence running through our team. Crazy stunt... Not something one of our leaders should be doing.
It's not big and hard and certainly on this occasion doesn't come under the 'sticking up for ourselves act'.

Great win though under the circumstances.

Quote ="jools"Please share them. The footage I've seen doesn't show what happened after Simpson picked up the ball. But your version of events is not how I remember them- had quite a good view from our end of the incident.'" skysports.tv/4W81FP This shows the incident. The only thing it doesn't show is the Ferres punch but no one is disputing that.

Quote ="jools"Please share them. The footage I've seen doesn't show what happened after Simpson picked up the ball. But your version of events is not how I remember them- had quite a good view from our end of the incident.'" skysports.tv/4W81FP This shows the incident. The only thing it doesn't show is the Ferres punch but no one is disputing that.

It didn't cost us. In fact it brought our players closer together and showed we can do the hard stuff when we need to.

We all agree it was a daft thing to do.

We all agree that he shouldn't have.

However some folk need to calm down. It was a punch. You'd think some people had only being watching rugby league 2 years.

Spot on , Hanbury has kicked on for the second time and the ball is 10 yds in front of him when Ferris shoves him in the back, ( which is a penalty ) Both were chasing a ball that was knocked on.

The shove from Ferris was no big deal, ( just a penalty ) neither was the one from Hanbury, but lets not pretend Hanbury instigated the incident cause he didn't, No amount of words will change what's clearly on the Video.

Exactly what happened , but somehow the push from Ferris was ok ( even though it was a foul ) yet the push from Hanbury was starting a fight. unbelievable.

And Hanbury milked it like a premier footballer

Ferres will cop a ban, but he might get sending off sufficient since he missed a game already

You mean your opinion!!!

Just because you believe it, doesn't mean it's right.

Ferres pushed Hanbury competing for the ball (admittedly illegally)

Hanbury then started a bit of pushing and shoving after play had stopped.

That is how I have formed MY OPINION that Hanbury started it.

Pretty much how it happened really

I agree Hanbury was doing his best to make it look as bad as he could, ( which is very poor sportsmanship ) Think Ferris will get a ban, Can't remember what Wardle got when he lamped Ablett, mind you he hit him quite a few times.

Ferres punched him which is a red card and in my opinion a 1 to 2 game ban. What makes it more stupid is Widnes had knocked on so Silverwood was playing advantage. As soon as they get the ball it goes back to scrum to the Giants.

re:half backs, i thought they created most of the tries today, it's clear to see how much widnes rely on brown, he was involved in everything widnes did today,
as for poor teams, i disagree, to play like we did for 70 minutes with a man short was a superb effort, i can't recall widnes ever really looking threatening, we closed you down well in midfield and defended superbly, even when you had numbers on us out wide, forcing errors from you,not only that but i thought we controlled the game very well for the majority of the 2nd half, that, to me, is a good team

Ok mate, Silverwood didn't think so,( WHICH MEANS NOTHING I AGREE ) Lets see what the beaks think after watching the Video. If he's really lucky he may get sending off is enough, but he'll need to be lucky.

He deserved to walk. He will probably get 2 games, baring in mind wardle got 2 and that was for repeated punching.

I just think that it's getting blown a bit out of proportion. And I will defend what I think is right. Not the punch but the circumstances surrounding it. It's not black and white. Ferres is not a thug who goes round hitting people for no reason. As I say though. This is only my opinion.

Can Ferres put in an EGP? Was the lomax incident the last time he was at red hall and was it over 12 months ago?

Agree.

Only one poor team out there and that was Widnes and that was because we made them poor. After the sending off the lads on the field stepped it up and did the extra work they needed to.
They were a credit to the shirt and have earned a week off.

As for Widnes. Everything goes through Brown. They only seem to have one set move where he get the ball back from a forward whilst deep. It worked for their 1st try but then we had it sussed. Very over rated player if you ask me.

To be honest I don't know, I can't remember when his last sending off was , or whether the early plea is on a season basis, Perhaps Stella kid will know , He/She seems to know all that sort of stat.

Last time he was charged was for the throw on lomax- was April last year.

Thanks Jools. He's got the option then as it runs over a 12 month period.

That should go in his favour.

and before that it was 2012, so hardly a gareth hock as some people have been saying on various social media sites

Thug this thug that according to a lot of Widnes fans on said social media sites.

Just shows some people's lack of knowledge of the game.