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| Quote ="Danril"[url=http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-giants/huddersfield-giants-news/2010/05/17/huddersfield-giants-raleigh-it-was-a-try-v-wigan-wolves-86081-26458846/Raleigh convinced it was a try.[/url'"
Leuluai's was also a nailed on try so it evens itself out really
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| Quote ="Danril"[url=http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-giants/huddersfield-giants-news/2010/05/17/huddersfield-giants-raleigh-it-was-a-try-v-wigan-wolves-86081-26458846/Raleigh convinced it was a try.[/url'"
How would have it earned you at least a draw when we beat you by 8 points?
 Sour Grapes. What is it with players/coaches from Hudds speaking crap to the media? They should just forget about it and put their heads down and concentrate on the next game ahead.
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| Quote ="brearley84"Great response from the boys after lastweek
just what was ordered apart from the result!
could of gone either way though, let ourselves down early in the second half again (like at edinburgh) but we arent far off.
thought the forwards laid the foundations today all played really well too.
only complaints...richards goal kick that never went through the posts! and andy raleighs 'try' dissallowed which would of evened up the scores
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Your season is in tatters.
Your out of the CC and sliiping down the table faster than vanessa feltz doing a lunge. Theres only one way the season will end, and it won't include trophy polish and champagne.
What has happened to the new force of world sport and global business?
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| Troll on.
Long way to go yet before the season is over, and no one has won a thing yet.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"How would have it earned you at least a draw when we beat you by 8 points?
Sour Grapes. What is it with players/coaches from Hudds speaking crap to the media? They should just forget about it and put their heads down and concentrate on the next game ahead.'"
Because your penalty at the end was as a result of us giving the ball away in a desperate attempt to keep the ball alive which we would not have beeen doing if we were level on points.
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| He is a Wigan fan, so lets just assume he doesnt actually understand the game
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| Quote ="the stella kid"Because your penalty at the end was as a result of us giving the ball away in a desperate attempt to keep the ball alive which we would not have beeen doing if we were level on points.'"
What a load of tosh what IF Leuluai's try had been given? What IF Wigan didn't have 2 players sin binned?
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| Then it would have been a different game, what if we hadnt kicked out on the full twice.
See how this goes?
If the try had been given, as eveyone in the ground bar silverfish thought it should have, then its a totally different last 5 minutes.
FWIW, since the Wigan forum is so welcoming and friendly Trolls will be treated with Zero tolerance from this point on.
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| Quote ="Danril"[url=http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-giants/huddersfield-giants-news/2010/05/17/huddersfield-giants-raleigh-it-was-a-try-v-wigan-wolves-86081-26458846/Raleigh convinced it was a try.[/url'"
Let's be honest he isn't going to say it wasn't is he?
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| It is kinda meaningless, yes.
then again I remember Bradon Costin having a try ruled out for a double movement in a big game, the score would have won it for us in that case too, and he was adamant it was a fair try.
Later replays showed he was right too.
But I have also noticed that highlights these days never show dissalowed tries. I suspect because it shows how often the refs get them wrong without the VR there to tell them the answer.
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| the highligts don't show Raleigh's try but do show Leiulai's. And despite what the Wigan fans say Leiulai looks to be held up and the touch judge is in a perfect position.
Mind you one Wigan fan was saying Mason did not run the ball in all game. It must be someone different i watched yesterday taking drive after drive although the highlights suggest otherwise.
As for the previous comment. Yes if your try had been given you would have had the game won. But equally at that point if Raleighs try had been given Huddersfield would have got at least a draw.
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| here's my take on yesterday....
Best team won , Wigan were, only just, a bit better than us and managed to handle the pressure better and had the better luck.
Our performance was 90% better than last week although there was still one or 2 negatives for me.
I'm not blaming the Ref, although i was Adamant Raleigh had scored, he hit the ground but i dont think the movement was stopped as it all happened in one movement.
As for the 2 Wigan sin-bins they came after the captain had been told and warnings given so their fans cant really complain about them going after they continued to commit the same offences.
Another point for me was our fans lack of willingness to get behind the team!, when we were 30-26 down i think , we forced a goal line dropout and i was expecting the crowd to be stood up clapping, shouting encouragement to the team etc but no one bothered at all and people just sat there waiting for the game to restart - i'm sure the team would have loved to have heard the crowd trying to lift them for the final push but alas ...!!
So to sum up it was a vast improvement in attack, defence again looked dodgy, best team won, Ref not to blame and in the end i think it was just bad luck that was the difference between the sides !
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"
Another point for me was our fans lack of willingness to get behind the team!, when we were 30-26 down i think , we forced a goal line dropout and i was expecting the crowd to be stood up clapping, shouting encouragement to the team etc but no one bothered at all and people just sat there waiting for the game to restart - i'm sure the team would have loved to have heard the crowd trying to lift them for the final push but alas ...!!
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What you find Daz, is if you open your mouth and show some passion you get told to be quiet. Hilarious.
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| Quote ="Wadski"What you find Daz, is if you open your mouth and show some passion you get told to be quiet. Hilarious.'"
Sit down am trying to watch the bloody game !!!! i had a little rant at certain people who are quite happy to get out of their seat to slag a player off
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| People standing up in front of me annoys me, but i wont tell people to shut up...thats just a bit barmy (well, unless they are being offensive).
Mind I will tell someone to shut up if they are slagging a player off.
As for not getting behind the team, its not surprising given recent results that people expect the inevitable.
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| Quote ="Sihill88" What IF Wigan didn't have 2 players sin binned?'"
Then Silverwood would have been even more of a joke than he actually was.
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| And whatever happened to being sent off for persistant foul play?
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"here's my take on yesterday....
Best team won , Wigan were, only just, a bit better than us and managed to handle the pressure better and had the better luck.
Our performance was 90% better than last week although there was still one or 2 negatives for me.
I'm not blaming the Ref, although i was Adamant Raleigh had scored, he hit the ground but i dont think the movement was stopped as it all happened in one movement.
As for the 2 Wigan sin-bins they came after the captain had been told and warnings given so their fans cant really complain about them going after they continued to commit the same offences.
So to sum up it was a vast improvement in attack, defence again looked dodgy, best team won, Ref not to blame and in the end i think it was just bad luck that was the difference between the sides !'"
A good summary. An even game and sometimes the ball does not bounce your way.
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| Quote ="Code13"And whatever happened to being sent off for persistant foul play?'"
I'll bet Mason is wondering that too...
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| Quote ="the stella kid"
Mind you one Wigan fan was saying Mason did not run the ball in all game. It must be someone different i watched yesterday taking drive after drive although the highlights suggest otherwise.
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As for the game overall I thought we just about edged it. To consider we only had 12 men for a quater of the game showed how well we did really. It could have gone either way but our defence just about managed to keep our noses infront.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I thought Mason had a very brave game on Sunday. Our players were hunting him all game(especially McIlorum) and he just kept driving the ball in, taking the hits and coming back for more.
As for the game overall I thought we just about edged it. To consider we only had 12 men for a quater of the game showed how well we did really. It could have gone either way but our defence just about managed to keep our noses infront.'"
That's how he's been playing for the last two seasons now. He is probably our most consistent player.
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| Quote ="Code13"And whatever happened to being sent off for persistent foul play?'"
sack that, what ever happened to sin binning BOTH teams for persistence after the captain was spoken too. I dont mind our binnings as they were right but a couple of your guys should have gone for the same offences.
Ref hammered us and gave you all your field position except the 40/20 that went out on the full.
Ask for Mason, he may have run it in all game but he was hammered all game just like Gilmour who tried the bit hit
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| Quote ="Pieman"sack that, what ever happened to sin binning BOTH teams for persistence after the captain was spoken too. I dont mind our binnings as they were right but a couple of your guys should have gone for the same offences.
Ref hammered us and gave you all your field position except the 40/20 that went out on the full.
Ask for Mason, he may have run it in all game but he was hammered all game just like Gilmour who tried the bit hit'"
wigan got more penalties awarded than the giants... hardly the ref hammering you
you mean the big hit where heads clashed...
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| not the one when he tried it on and missed....
yeah the refs always try and even it up, also if we got more penalties how did we get sin binned twice for persistence?.....funny that
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| If you got two more penalties how did the ref hammer you? Because he got sick of O'Loughlin going for the head? The Coley binning was a professional foul and the ref had zero option. Following a break we apparently didn't make because we got all our yards via the penalties the ref handed us, despite us getting fewer than you.
You got two more penalties yet we scored 6 tries apiece but somehow we only made any yards when we got penalties. Kind of stands to reason then, seeing as you got two more penalties but no more tries, that your lot weren't much crack either then eh.
All this we're Wigan, we're the greatest, everyone hates us but we won despite them piffle is a bit lame. Go away, think of a decent argument that doesn't have more holes than a colander and then try again. Jeez, is winning the game and no one here complaining about the result not enough for you people? Talk about chips on the shoulder...
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