You really do post some guff. Are you never embarrassed by your one-eyed view of the world?

You answer some questions: Why was Leuluai's perfectly good try ruled out? Why wasn't the hit on Tomkins penalised? How come you gave 2 successive penalties away and got no yellow card but immediately afterwards Wigan did the same and had a man sin binned? How come Wigan had 2 men in the bin despite the penalty count being !0-7 [uin their favour[/u at the time of the 2nd binning?

Get a grip man! There were decisions both ways that could have been different. Grow a pair and suck it in. You're beginning to sound like that girl of a coach of yours!

Pay good money to be screwed every week, so if have to put up with that then rather not bother and prob explains our crowds TBH.
Its complete e and if you think Wigan were best team today then you on something.
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I can only assume it wasn't played at. If the defender stands still and it hits him its not back to one. But if the defender sticks a leg out at the ball it is. Clearly you will have had a better view from the side than me in the corner at the end of the ground. I wasn't close enough to see it so can't comment.



Bemused to see you ask me that two posts after I already answered it.


That just sounds amazingly bitter especially when you CLEARLY (with two sin bins) had the better of the referee decisions. I'm no idea what the penalty count was but if it proves to be even then how can two sin bins to none be justified?

And What more do you want? Your not seriously suggesting only Huddersfield get bad referee decisions because thats what it reads like.

Facts are you've lost to us twice, Saints and Warrington and you've played all those teams at home so far. Reason? Your bench isn't good enough. Well thats my conclusion from the two games I've seen recently.

Apparently the penalty count was Huddersfield 13 Wigan 11 (conceded). So Hudds concede two more penalties yet Wigan get two sin bins to none. Not sure how any of you can whinge about the ref, he was cr*p for both sides.

Because the in-goal judge saw him (coley) put the ball down and indicated to the ref it was a try. Whoever saw the double movement (ref or in-goal judge) gave a double movement. Simple really.

I have no complaints about the Ref. There were some poor decisions but he was fair to both teams. If it had been a two point game and he had made several howlers then maybe i would have had a go.

The simple fact is that yesterday we were not good enough. too many mistakes, poor defence and at times a lack of ideas.

The simple fact is that we can not compete regularly with the top teams who play with power, speed and passing.

Once teams start attacking down the wings we always seem to be on the back foot. jammer is not a centre and Whatuira seems to have lost form. Hodgson is too slow to handle an attack who mixes it up. Eg if he goes back to defend a kick he cannot get back up quickly enough if they run it. If they run straight at him or he has to finish from 10 yards he is excellent. Cudjoe still seems to get caught out of position. is age catching up on Gilmour.


Did anyone notice that the players went down the tunnel at the end of the game rather than cooling down on the pitch afterwards. Was that planned or part of a new routine.

I don't think it was a case of us not being good enough but more a case of us not being smart or alert enough. We do not start halves well, we're still in the changing rooms whilst the opposition are usually scoring points. To kick the ball dead twice in a game, once each way to eliminate the wind playing a part, on your home ground is a bit poor IMO and they were costly errors.

And we have patches where we just look like we've forgotten what to do. We stand off and stutter. They did well to come back from that shocking start to the second half and it was much better than last week but they need to figure out why they don't start halves properly and generally be a bit more determined and focussed.

Our discipline was the problem. Whenever we had Wigan starting a set deep in their own half we gave up a penalty to take them out of trouble. A good match though that could have gone either way. I thought Raleigh had definately scored but then again I thought Leauluai had scored as well.

It's an absolute joke that Michael Lawrence is not in the side, Brown always takes the easy way out in picking his buddies. If he had the balls that Michael Maquire has then the Giants would get the results they are looking for.

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Lawrences problem is that he can't break a tackle. He's great when defending but there's more chance of Lolesi and Fats making a break which is what centres should be doing.

I agree that lawrence does not offer much offensively. that however will only improve with playing and experience. that is why i describe him as a dfensive centre. After shipping 126 points in our last 3 games the emphasis has to be on defence.

defence wins games. You will not win many games if you concede as many points as we are. As for scoring opportunities we need to go back to basics and rely on our half backs and hookers to set the score sup.

some good points from Danril and DG.

For me there is something badly misfiring in our defence of late, early season we were keen, had good line speed, controlled the collision and ruck and did it consistantly.

Now as has been said we make poor starts to each half, and spend times just making bad decisions and standing off.

And its these moments when we stand off that good teams get round our flanks where previously the line would be up and cutting out these movements.

In attack we are taking the ball too flat, and standing still, Wigan and Wire carved us up because they took the ball deeper and moving at speed when they got it. BASIC RUGBY.

If all the talk of what NB is going to do has affected the training then he has a LOT to answer for. Its an improvement, but early season we would have won that match, and its an improvement because it couldnt get worse.

funny how silverwood is getting it from both sets of fans

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Leuluai's was also a nailed on try so it evens itself out really

How would have it earned you at least a draw when we beat you by 8 points?



Sour Grapes. What is it with players/coaches from Hudds speaking crap to the media? They should just forget about it and put their heads down and concentrate on the next game ahead.

Your season is in tatters.

Your out of the CC and sliiping down the table faster than vanessa feltz doing a lunge. Theres only one way the season will end, and it won't include trophy polish and champagne.

What has happened to the new force of world sport and global business?

Troll on.

Long way to go yet before the season is over, and no one has won a thing yet.

Because your penalty at the end was as a result of us giving the ball away in a desperate attempt to keep the ball alive which we would not have beeen doing if we were level on points.

He is a Wigan fan, so lets just assume he doesnt actually understand the game

What a load of tosh what IF Leuluai's try had been given? What IF Wigan didn't have 2 players sin binned?

Then it would have been a different game, what if we hadnt kicked out on the full twice.

See how this goes?

If the try had been given, as eveyone in the ground bar silverfish thought it should have, then its a totally different last 5 minutes.

FWIW, since the Wigan forum is so welcoming and friendly Trolls will be treated with Zero tolerance from this point on.

Let's be honest he isn't going to say it wasn't is he?

It is kinda meaningless, yes.

then again I remember Bradon Costin having a try ruled out for a double movement in a big game, the score would have won it for us in that case too, and he was adamant it was a fair try.

Later replays showed he was right too.

But I have also noticed that highlights these days never show dissalowed tries. I suspect because it shows how often the refs get them wrong without the VR there to tell them the answer.

the highligts don't show Raleigh's try but do show Leiulai's. And despite what the Wigan fans say Leiulai looks to be held up and the touch judge is in a perfect position.
Mind you one Wigan fan was saying Mason did not run the ball in all game. It must be someone different i watched yesterday taking drive after drive although the highlights suggest otherwise.

As for the previous comment. Yes if your try had been given you would have had the game won. But equally at that point if Raleighs try had been given Huddersfield would have got at least a draw.