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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Most fans will have said "it's better than NO promotion/relegation" but it is lopsided, wonder how long the RFL will stick with it ? (if championship clubs continue to struggle)'"
Good point. I hope they do stick with it, and like i said, tweak it a little.
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| It's quite simple, if we'd of beaten kr, wakey and fax like we should of, nobody would be moaning about the structure of the middle 8. Just get on with it.
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| In his statement he does say the other championship teams also are suffering.
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| Quote ="wolrab613"It's quite simple, if we'd of beaten kr, wakey and fax like we should of, nobody would be moaning about the structure of the middle 8. Just get on with it.'"
But we didn't beat them did we. And as the league table looks now suggest that the four SL clubs have the edge. Now i don't see it as moaning when championship clubs are at a disadvantage. So if we like you say just get on with it and the 4 SL clubs go back up, and the same happens again next season and the rfl say,this is not working and close the door, Then what? I say speak up now and let the rfl know that a little tweaking needs to be done to make it a bit more of a level playing field.
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| Quote ="wolrab613"It's quite simple, if we'd of beaten kr, wakey and fax like we should of, nobody would be moaning about the structure of the middle 8. Just get on with it.'"
Maybe, but it's not just Leigh who are 'finding it hard'. Bradford may have 4 points and beaten Salford, but they have been thrashed/stuffed 3 times.
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| You are missing the point of the thread, irrespective of whether the system works/worked or not are you surprised that we get abuse from supporters of other teams when 'our spokesman' Murphy accuses the RFL of having an hidden agenda against Leigh?
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| Reffy, I know you love a discussion/telling people they are wrong. So an ex player, who also has links with quite a few 'other clubs', talks a load of 'bollox' about our current plight. I saw the article yesterday, and found it embarrassing....to be fair, the Manchester Evening News are stupid for publishing it. Other folk 'drifted off topic' Sir, I can only apologize for doing likewise....
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| No need to apologise but thank you, I shall return the compliment when the occasion arises.
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| Thanking You Reffy...
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| Well I am surprised.
A former Leigh player' who is not a club spokesman' is asked by the M E N for his opinion on what he thinks of the current promotion and relegation rules and some don't like it.
How dare AJM say what he thinks.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Well I am surprised.
A former Leigh player' who is not a club spokesman' is asked by the M E N for his opinion on what he thinks of the current promotion and relegation rules and some don't like it.
How dare AJM say what he thinks.
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Sent you a private message mate to meet up for the Widnes game. I have Ians number matey.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Well I am surprised.
A former Leigh player' who is not a club spokesman' is asked by the M E N for his opinion on what he thinks of the current promotion and relegation rules and some don't like it.
How dare AJM say what he thinks.
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He's always done that Frank.
Alex used to say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but his thoughts won't have done the club any good. Heaven help us if those were the views of the club too - and similar thoughts have indeed been voiced by club officials during the season.
The only conspiracy I'm aware of at the moment, is the one amongst clubs who have all ganged up to beat us on the pitch!
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| Bit daft to start inventing conspiracy theories. I still think the Super 8s are the way to go. Franchising was a total disaster all round but was brought in because straight promotion and relegation didn't work either; the relegated SL team beat everyone & went straight back up, in order to beat them or to stay up in SL if another team would have to spend a fortune, gamble on staying up (not likely) and face financial turmoil if they failed. Saying that though I do think it needs some tweaks. The transfer deadline was a farce, that needs to be pushed back at least a month and a one year minimum contract length enforced. Also while you can't carry all your points through to The Qualifiers I do think you should carry some though, that'd punish teams like Wakefield who openly said they weren't bothered about their 23 Super League Games while rewarding teams like Leigh who've become as good as they can be in The Championship. I think we'll come back stronger next year but we can't keep up this level getting nowhere forever (look at what happened to Featherstone); if that does happen it'll be wasted potential & lower SL clubs will know they've nothing to fear & go back to the attitude during franchising where ambition was punished. Do think as well Super League clubs shouldn't be making any decisions on how the sport is run, how often do you hear "Super League Clubs voted to..." when that now affects all the other clubs, why are we letting 12 clubs (with a notoriously bad track record (franchising, Dual Code, Scrapping reserves)) run the sport for all 38 clubs?!
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| Quote ="reffy"You are missing the point of the thread, irrespective of whether the system works/worked or not are you surprised that we get abuse from supporters of other teams when 'our spokesman' Murphy accuses the RFL of having an hidden agenda against Leigh?'"
Something I listened to a few weeks back taken from the Saints board.
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| Quote ="Lowton_Sparrow"Bit daft to start inventing conspiracy theories. I still think the Super 8s are the way to go. Franchising was a total disaster all round but was brought in because straight promotion and relegation didn't work either; the relegated SL team beat everyone & went straight back up, in order to beat them or to stay up in SL if another team would have to spend a fortune, gamble on staying up (not likely) and face financial turmoil if they failed. Saying that though I do think it needs some tweaks. The transfer deadline was a farce, that needs to be pushed back at least a month and a one year minimum contract length enforced. Also while you can't carry all your points through to The Qualifiers I do think you should carry some though, that'd punish teams like Wakefield who openly said they weren't bothered about their 23 Super League Games while rewarding teams like Leigh who've become as good as they can be in The Championship. I think we'll come back stronger next year but we can't keep up this level getting nowhere forever (look at what happened to Featherstone); if that does happen it'll be wasted potential & lower SL clubs will know they've nothing to fear & go back to the attitude during franchising where ambition was punished. Do think as well Super League clubs shouldn't be making any decisions on how the sport is run, how often do you hear "Super League Clubs voted to..." when that now affects all the other clubs, why are we letting 12 clubs (with a notoriously bad track record (franchising, Dual Code, Scrapping reserves)) run the sport for all 38 clubs?!'"
Would agree with taking some points over, or even points based on league position would stop teams like wakefeild throwing off the season and also would have stopped bradford from coasting when they knew they where in 2nd and giving games away, made it alot more interesting, but on the other hand would handicap Sheffield/fax as they would have been even further back
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| Quote ="wolrab613"It's quite simple, if we'd of beaten kr, wakey and fax like we should of, nobody would be moaning about the structure of the middle 8. Just get on with it.'"
Every team in every division of every sport can identify matches they feel they should have won. Just listen to after match comments by coaches/managers. I can see your frustration at losing to KR when you were so far ahead at half-time and losing to Wakey by only 1 point but you were stuffed by Fax. You lost all three matches because you were not good enough to win any of them. As you say "Just get on with it."
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| Quote ="Alan"He's always done that Frank.
Alex used to say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but his thoughts won't have done the club any good. Heaven help us if those were the views of the club too - and similar thoughts have indeed been voiced by club officials during the season.
The only conspiracy I'm aware of at the moment, is the one amongst clubs who have all ganged up to beat us on the pitch!
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Pretty cringe worthy stuff to say the least Alan isn't it.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Pretty cringe worthy stuff to say the least Alan isn't it.'"
"Cringe worthy", that's the phrase I was looking for. Thanks Andy.
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| Love the new system, just needs a transfer window too stop the late panic buys
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| the new system is great. just needs tweaking as said.
its embarrasing all these conspiracy theories, i cant believe people tbelieve them.
and what is more embarrassing is the clubs official twitter account (which has over 10,000 followers) has "retweeted" this article to its followers. which suggests they agree with it.
surely the club should not be broadcasting these views.
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| The only fault that I can see with piece is that he refers to a "hidden" agenda - when there is no mistaking the openness of the agenda of SL clubs to maintain the status quo. The more high profile sports of football and rugby union don't force champion second tier clubs to jump through so many hoops to get their shot at the big time!
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| Best finale to a season in years in our league, and Leigh are not out of it yet.
We knew the rules , threw the dice with some mid season signings and may or may not be good enough.
What's not to like ?
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| Quote ="Alan"but his thoughts won't have done the club any good'"
I wouldn't worry about it Derek's in the paper again.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Pretty cringe worthy stuff to say the least Alan isn't it.'"
Followed swiftly by the ban of Marc Green, on Saturday. And some folks wonder why Leigh Centurions aren't the first name on everybody's Christmas card list!
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| Quote ="Alan"Followed swiftly by the ban of Marc Green, on Saturday. And some folks wonder why Leigh Centurions aren't the first name on everybody's Christmas card list!'"
How could it be swiftly..It was sent via Royal Mail..We haven't quite sussed email yet..
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