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| MISH and NORTH STANDER are spot on. Derek (I won't walk away from the club) Beaumont has walked away to take a back seat because he can't stand the heat. He just loves the adoration of everyone knowing how rich he is, and how we must tug our forelocks to his wealth and generosity, and how much he has put into (loaned) the club he has almost destroyed. I got so bored of reading that ME ME ME statement. The man is 'inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity' as Disraeli once said.
Let's hope we can put all of this behind us and all get back to getting the club back to where it belongs. I just hope someone professional comes in to take the club forward and give DB his money back and we can all forget about this sorry episode and DB cn do one.
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| Quote ="ColD"Christ here's another one
If you want to buy him out give him a call. Yes I know he could drop us in it, but he hasn't and doesn't appear likely to do so either. I would imagine most teams in SL are under that threat.
They guy has clearly worked himself silly to sort the mess out, it's not just about his money it's the effort he put in to keep us afloat - and yes that protects his money also, but at the end of the day he's given us a competitive team that should be there or there about the play offs'"
What the cave dwelling fikk fe*kers don't get is that's the most financially rewarding outcome for Derek would be to have gone under in August, taking the tax benefits it would give.
You either support this club or you don't, personally without proof of support I would keep folk off club sites and limit them to VT.
Make your minds up, buy a ticket and help make this club the best it can be or focus your keyboard skills on something else you don't give a hoot about
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| Quote ="maurice"What the cave dwelling fikk fe*kers don't get is that's the most financially rewarding outcome for Derek would be to have gone under in August, taking the tax benefits it would give.
You either support this club or you don't, personally without proof of support I would keep folk off club sites and limit them to VT.
Make your minds up, buy a ticket and help make this club the best it can be or focus your keyboard skills on something else you don't give a hoot about'"
There's an excellent opportunity to get some serious marketing going here. Hopefully they realize that.
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| I've avoided commenting on here as it's a long time since I did contribute and I no longer live in Leigh. The last thing most people want is people who haven't even been to a game for some years telling them what should be going on. I have a feeling that this is going to turn into a Too Long, Didn't Read scenario, but you may want to bear with me.
Despite living a fair distance away for the last 30 odd years, I have always done my best to keep in touch with the goings-on at Hilton Park and the LSV. I think it's vital for a small club like Leigh to have a core of home-grown players, and what has been happening this week is making me feel much more connected with what happens next season than I expected. I don't know if John Duffy was given a brief when he was appointed, but I've watched his career with interest over the years, and he seems a canny chap. Signing so many players with Leigh connections has to be the perfect opportunity for the club to (re-) connect with the town. That doesn't mean I think there should be a "Local club for local people" scenario. The insularity that seems to afflict many inhabitants of Leigh (judging by comments on various Facebook pages) really has no place; there are a lot of people who have moved into Leigh over the past few years for reasons that, surprise, surprise, have nothing to do with the attractions of the town itself, or the rugby club. But they are there. They should be consciously tapped up as they and their offspring will be a large part of the future of the club. I've lived in Birmingham for nearly 30 years and from my own experience, I would say that a significant number of "incomers" anywhere are looking for something to identify with. Everyone has a right to chew on the bones of the past, but sometimes it gets obsessive and as other posters have pointed out, it's the future that matters.
Well, that's probably me done for the next few years on here, but I think I'll be in Leigh for the Toulouse game.
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| Derek has gone nowhere, he is still there behind the scenes and is funding things.
This time however he is staying out of it like all the fans wanted.
He still owns & funds the club, just quietly this time.
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| Quote ="Binosh"Derek has gone nowhere, he is still there behind the scenes and is funding things.
This time however he is staying out of it like all the fans wanted.
He still owns & funds the club, just quietly this time.'"
He is funding nothing.. Says so in the statement, read it..
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| Quote ="atomic"He is funding nothing.. Says so in the statement, read it..'"
So u think we're getting these players to play for us with just the£200,000 rl money for wages
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"So u think we're getting these players to play for us with just the£200,000 rl money for wages
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+ anticipated ticket sales
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+ LISA, (Dick Jones has already pretty much told us she knows who)
+ Superleigh Lottery
Or alternatively what do we do with all of the above
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"So u think we're getting these players to play for us with just the£200,000 rl money for wages
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It would be disappointing if Derek needs to tip any serious money in this season coming, there will be cash flow issues, ie nowts coming in until ST's are on sale, but if we fans do our bit and keep gates at 3000 or above then my calculations suggest we will have gate income circa 600k plus 200k funding plus sponsorship etc so 5/600k must be available for squad. If we don't buy tickets that changes everything though, so get behind the ST's when out and allow the club to forecast positive income
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| Quote ="maurice"It would be disappointing if Derek needs to tip any serious money in this season coming, there will be cash flow issues, ie nowts coming in until ST's are on sale, but if we fans do our bit and keep gates at 3000 or above then my calculations suggest we will have gate income circa 600k plus 200k funding plus sponsorship etc so 5/600k must be available for squad. If we don't buy tickets that changes everything though, [uso get behind the ST's when out and allow the club to forecast positive income'"
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| Quote ="Binosh"Derek has gone nowhere, he is still there behind the scenes and is funding things.
This time however he is staying out of it like all the fans wanted.
He still owns & funds the club, just quietly this time.'"
Spot on. Quietly ish for 12 months having removed over £1 million of wages and liabilities from Leigh RLFC.
It has all transpired as I predicted even prior to the quick fire sales of Hall, Crooks, Hanson, Pete et al
12 months PT, and we should then expect FT status again from 2020 and a full on SL assault, hopefully with Toronto gone.
Derek never was going anywhere.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Spot on. Quietly ish for 12 months having removed over £1 million of wages and liabilities from Leigh RLFC.
It has all transpired as I predicted even prior to the quick fire sales of Hall, Crooks, Hanson, Pete et al
12 months PT, and we should then expect FT status again from 2020 and a full on SL assault, hopefully with Toronto gone.
Derek never was going anywhere.'"
What happens if Toronto Flatpack don't make it to SL this year & push again in 2020 ? Do we continue to stay PT until they are gone ?
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"
12 months PT, and we should then expect FT status again from 2020 and a full on SL assault,
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How about taking our first steps before planning a run?
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Spot on. Quietly ish for 12 months having removed over £1 million of wages and liabilities from Leigh RLFC.
It has all transpired as I predicted even prior to the quick fire sales of Hall, Crooks, Hanson, Pete et al
12 months PT, and we should then expect FT status again from 2020 and a full on SL assault, hopefully with Toronto gone.
Derek never was going anywhere.'"
And a grand job he has done IMO to retrieve the situation, but based on your comments (which most of us very much appreciate) then lessons have not been learned. Surely we need some structure, and we seem to be signing people settled in a PT environment - do we scrap them all off again next year, that works well
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| Quote ="Cokey"[/u
Exactly mo, let's hope enough folk see it that way.'"
Many will see it that way. The person you replied too was wrong three years ago when questioned on long term viability of the club.
He had answers then,and he has answers now..
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| Look , we are fans , we ' support ' what is put in front of us in whatever season it is , as for what happens next year ' 2020 ' well that's up to those in charge , most probably dependant on what we ' the fans ' do support wise this year ' 2019 '
We do our ' bit ' we get more year after
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Look , we are fans , we ' support ' what is put in front of us in whatever season it is , as for what happens next year ' 2020 ' well that's up to those in charge , most probably dependant on what we ' the fans ' do support wise this year ' 2019 '
We do our ' bit ' we get more year after'"
Get real Starbug,the fixtures are still in place.
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| Quote ="atomic"Many will see it that way. [i[uThe person you replied too was wrong three years ago when questioned on long term viability of the club.
He had answers then,and he has answers now..'"
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No probs Cokey.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Spot on. Quietly ish for 12 months having removed over £1 million of wages and liabilities from Leigh RLFC.
It has all transpired as I predicted even prior to the quick fire sales of Hall, Crooks, Hanson, Pete et al
12 months PT, and we should then expect FT status again from 2020 and a full on SL assault, hopefully with Toronto gone.
Derek never was going anywhere.'"
Well done..
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| Quote ="ColD"And a grand job he has done IMO to retrieve the situation, but based on your comments (which most of us very much appreciate) then lessons have not been learned. Surely we need some structure, and we seem to be signing people settled in a PT environment - do we scrap them all off again next year, that works well'"
Good points, and as we know circumstances do change.
It's just a hunch but I do know Derek is fiercely ambitious and at the end of the day I believe the ambition is still to get this club to SL and be a sustainable SL club at that. An average of 6000 in SL suggests it is quite feasible.
We can all look at decisions made and yes some were poor but we have also been unbelievably unlucky as well.
As for Toronto still being around in 2020, Well let's see. 12 months is a long time in Rugby League. We should know more than most.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Good points, and as we know circumstances do change.
It's just a hunch but I do know Derek is fiercely ambitious and at the end of the day I believe the ambition is still to get this club to SL and be a sustainable SL club at that. An average of 6000 in SL suggests it is quite feasible.
We can all look at decisions made and yes some were poor but we have also been unbelievably unlucky as well.
As for Toronto still being around in 2020, Well let's see. 12 months is a long time in Rugby League. We should know more than most.'"
Sustainable being the operative word, the current though process doesn't work - we of all clubs have proved that more than once over the years. Looks like we are going to take the same approach again
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| Quote ="ColD"And a grand job he has done IMO to retrieve the situation, but based on your comments (which most of us very much appreciate) then lessons have not been learned. Surely we need some structure, and we seem to be signing people settled in a PT environment - do we scrap them all off again next year, that works well'"
Let’s hope the approach will be a little more subdued than that, I personally would be happy to see some funding again in 12 months or so when it’s right to go again. But we don’t wanna see a complete overhaul again and end up back like This if we don’t go up, my suggestion would be to build this season, add a few more players next season who are better and build slowly as such with money we earn.
Once Toronto are out the way and Widnes if they fail to go up lose a lot of the funding that they have this year. We wouldn’t need a squad that is all bells and whistles to go up in the new structure
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| Similiar situation to Widnes and Ste O'connor. The club apparently still owed SOC £350,000 which he sat back and took his bit when and as he could. I'm understood the Kevin Brown transfer fund went his way and we were never really able to invest into the first team squad. He's moving on though with the rest of the board and it looks like we're getting Luke Backhouse, a local young businessman who wants to plow money into Widnes. He's very ambitious so I think we will have a very good team in the years coming, that being said, money doesn't buy instant success like DB and Koukash have found out
Glad you's are back on your feet though, he's done great things for your club but it got into a bit of a mess. Look forward to my trip to Leigh and the Blackpool bash.
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